might as well just get rid of planes

There is still the constant irritation factor as also them being able to set up easier kills for their planes over halfway across the map.
Many of those AA sitters are not even trying to setup ambushes to kill a plane (like I do when I use AA) but they seem to spam shots endlessly at max range, trying to constantly send the plane back for repairs.
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Speaking or irritation, I think that scene from this animation describes how I feel when my vehicles get constantly poked.

I said dedicated AA tools shouldn’t be OHK on planes. I dont see how it’s that hard to understand. Things like Panzerfaust, PIAT and Bazooka still behave like RPG/SMAW in BF3 and 4.

It’s like you only read what you want to read.

OK then. We agree it’s rather seldom that a single FF ohk a 100% health plane. Does that mean it is actually not the one-hit-kill thingy but rather that everybody seems to use Fliegerfaust atm?
Because if your argument remains that it is a “possible ohk” hence op, how you call one of your bombs that can easily delete 5+ red dots at once when they capture a flag?

Problem is, they don’t. Bombs explosive area has narrowed a lot. Unless you 5 are in one square, which is not my problem at this point.

I do not remember anyone who demands that FF should be visible.
Only that FF is not and that it makes it hard to avoid combined with the ohk.

Done with you. Have a nice day. I don’t need your theories when one has experience.

EDIT: And stop twisting words, demand. No1 demanded anything, i only said that FF user is hard to see/spot.

Its only bombers that can kill +5 and they cant get ohk by FF and its only the stuka 1000 bomb that can do it with one bomb. Fighter bombs are useless.

I get the OHK issue but I am really confused about the difficulty to avoid. Unless I make a relaly low flight the chance that I will get the full damage or even get hit is not very high

Lol, pathetic word games. You (“you” as in “you pilots”, not “you personally”) mention it as a disadvantage several times, but you do not want it to be changed? Why mention it then, just for fun?

And you didn’t even care to comment my explanation which shows that your view on OHKs is flawed, which proves that you know you are wrong.

I have no problem with you being “done” with me, you are just unpleasant and would say/write anything to avoid to admit that you are wrong and selfish. And to get the FF nerfed.

So let’s continue to be “done” with each other, I would have preferred an understanding, but it seems to be impossible with someone so heavily biased.

The only thing those weapons have in common is they are classed as AT in BF.
BFV AT have significant drop compared to BF3/4 AT.

RPG is closer to FF and yet you still need to target so you can get both groups of rockets to hit.

As @DingoKillr intimates, differentiate because or drop or velocity etc and you may have an argument. But to argue AA shouldn’t OHK simply because it is well, AA is a very weak argument that I chose to ignore.

Bazooka and Panzerfaust have close to none drop, especially the Bazooka which you can even zeroing like sniper rifles.

And RPG is nowhere close to the Fliegerfaust.

I’ve said it many times! You get OHK, you can be revived. I have to be in penalty for minutes. That’s also why you lack understanding cause you don’t fly… Idk, wth you want more? Go fly and see it for ur self? Jesus.

This is the best one though…

“I can’t get revived and have to sit in the spawn screen longer so shouldn’t get OHK’d”.

Brilliant!

Waiting in the spawn screen for a plane is a choice.

You don’t have to be in ‘penalty’.

If you want to argue that the FF OHK should be removed because OHK from unseen threats is an obnoxious gameplay mechanic I’ll hear you out and be sympathetic.

If you want to argue that the FF OHK should be removed because you choose to wait in the spawn screen several minutes for a plane I’m going to file that complaint away in my ‘entitled pilot’ folder.

BEHOLD! The sanctimonious tank driver! So pure! Never complains! What a role model!

Indeed, one has dedicated to be a pilot, nothing else. He waits. But after continues shots, wtf? Ill show soon how easy it is.

I’m sorry but you pilots ( and I’m fairly sure without looking at anyones stats, are some of the best on the game) come across as very elitist. Why shouldn’t you have to deal with multiple threats from various sources, just like the ground game has to.
Loqtral, trokey, celsi etc are all correct.
My experience comes only from conquest and I’m usually pretty much the only fligalteer on a map ( judging by the killfeed). I’ve met some really good pilots who have changed their flying style and can adapt somewhat to the danger I pose … If they can you can.
In my experience the majority of my 1 hit kills ( which is a slight misnomer coz there are 2 barrages and both have to hit) come from hitting the plane directly in the cockpit as it’s coming towards me.
Distance shots and shots at a parallel to me or when planes are looping take skill, judgement and some luck.
I agree the SAA range is too far now ( too many people jump in them and compete with me ).
I hope they don’t remove the 2 barrage kill , but if they do I won’t moan about it , just adapt & continue to shoot those birds down.
For the record as of right now I have 1533 fligal kills with 22747 shots fired and a kpm with it of 0.34.
I don’t think that’s op .

Let’s me play pilot for one post, please, it’s fun and it spares the real pilots the trouble to imagine “facts” for their own answer:

  1. You don’t fly, so your opinion doesn’t matter.
  2. Get in a plane.
  3. Try to fly yourself and you will learn how terribly difficult it is to maintain a 60:1 KDR
  4. Get in a plane
  5. FF is so mean and so OP, we can’t even see them on the ground
  6. 11 times of 10 times I get killed it’s an OHK by Fliegerfaust.
  7. We strongly dislike to get OHKed by Fliegerfaust while diving to the ground for multikill on infantry. It’s soo unfair.
  8. We don’t think we are elite. We are just better than you by all means because it took x days of our lifetime to master plane control
  9. Wait until we upload 367 staged and cut-together video clips which proof jack.
  10. Get in a plane.

You are welcome, flyboys.

Can you please stop that? If you don’t see the probem, actually willing to even try, you are no better. You are atm coloring this hardly. Give feedback that its not true.