Not going to pre-order. Heres why

Dice has started catering to much to the bottom tier players. The people who just start or only play once in a while. I understand they want to make the game fun but they should not do that by making everything so easy. Choppers get destroyed or at least blocked from certain parts of the map by stingers, and every engineer can have one. All lock-ons cause mobility hits or so it seems like, people cry about vehicles being more overpowered than infantry but it is a tank. It is a force multiplier. I should not have to worry non stop about infantry 1000 meters out on some tall building with a javelin pinning me down, or hitting me mid tank fight. I don’t want them to be buffed to be gods but nor should they build this weak. They no longer care to promote team play. As an assault you do not start with defibrillators as they did in past battlefields. They added 40x scopes to basically say gotta be 1000 yards or more from the target to see them. It feels more like cod and battlefield had some sort of child and it turned out to be this. I have bought every battlefield game and premium for most. I have 5 copies of battlefield 4 and 4 copies of premium. I have supported the series longer than most players and I constantly see it being made into a very casual shooter. Unless DICE proves that BF1 will not punish good players with skill balancing etc, and everything I have posted above they will not get my pre-order. Escape from Tarkov comes out august 4th and I will play that instead.

My stats before you start talking trash about them like you always do.

http://bf4stats.com/pc/IHaveHacksDuh

The reason I am only at 8% is because of stats that come with time played. Vehicles destroyed, rounds played, headshots etc.

I am not going to preorder. After preordering both BF3 and BF4 I have finally learned that Dice will gladly release a broken product and then make it better over time. I am not will to sit in a queue for 30 minutes to get into a game that is laggy as hell and crashes within 5 minutes.
It took months for each of the previous games to become stable and the “FREE” battlepacks for a month in no way compensated for my aggravation over the game. IMO, battlepacks are a wasted idea anyway. I now have over 800 XP bonuses languishing in my inventory.

Lol just a excuse to show off your stats I see right through you! Because even a dumb dumb would realize there’s no lock ons in ww1

personally i never pre order games anymore. to many times i have been burnt on games that look " so cool " then they sell a billion pre orders and forget to fix anything in the game because they already made their money off all of us pre order suckers.

and the way dice has gone i wont even buy one of their games without beta testing it first.

Wow i see we actually have some community members with common sense
Bravo!

I am giving them my money. 800 hours in BF4 in only one year of play, totally worth the money spent. They make a great product, not a perfect one. But absolutely worth the purchase.

You want to miss the release and all the fun of playing on new maps with everybody else? That’s on you

There will be a competitive side to BF1 so no reason to worry. The 64-player cql servers will always be casual, cannot ever be made comp.

You buy it pal but don’t be a fool on the forums complaining when you know full well what your gonna get!

Right opposite, on siege of shanghai you never can kill chopper, if he plays properly.
Cooldown on counter measure is only 12 s and after usage it lasts long time and doesn’t hit it.
So you can have it every couple seconds.
I saw that 10 people fired stingers and even he has no counter measure, he hide behind skyscrapper and he can have 100:8.
Because he pop out, take one two and hide.
Only your heli can deal with theirs and if your heli is noob you can’t play.
Or bird he doesn’t even care, 4 peoples are repairing him constantly and you can never put it down, he has like 100:8 and it runs experience for infantry and light vehicles, because it has absolute no counter.
Sometimes it gets rekt by jet, but he spawns instantly and keep going.
Heli is absolute cancer, i am glad that ww1 hasn’t one yet.

After all the enjoyment and great times I have had over the years playing Battlefield games, I didn’t even have to think twice, I already pre ordered the digital deluxe edition. Then again, I’m not one of these hyper sensitive creampuffs that let every bug in the game drive them to near insanity either.

I hope you aren’t one of those BF4 deniers who ignored the fact that Bf4 was unacceptably broken for 8 months after release.

Did I say it didn’t have problems?

Just checking.

Pre-ordering wasn’t an issue for me anyway. With EA Access there’s gonna be early access anyway, so no need for pre-ordering in my case.

Playing on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 10th or 20th day…doesn’t matter at all to me, and will not miss anything important

You…you actually bought EA access?

Doesn’t mean something else just as easy mode wont come along. What about some high powered rifle with no bullet drop or travel time that does 50% damage to vehicles. They will always cater to the noobs that cannot improve.

You do realize that on almost all other maps the heli is bad. That is why pilots flock to shanghai? Lancang Dam most helis wont make it past their second flag, paracel storm if the opposite team has a good aa driver rip aircraft, etc. Shanghai is the only excuse infy players have. Also RPG is heli hell if you are good with it.

I’m with you OP. Not only am I not pre-ordering I’m going to see if this game is going to flop as hard as I think it may before I even consider buying it.

Tiny map, few guns, no gadgets shown, Cortana, few and simplistic vehicles, underwhelming features, etc. Look at the live stream gameplay and compare with the Siege of Shanghai demo from 3 years ago, and try telling me with a straight face that BF4 didn’t seem much more ambitious and worthy of hype. Frankly my hype level has dropped through the floor.

People always get hyped and it never lives up to expectations. Star Wars battlefront was the most recent. Probably will get the new cod though for the remastered cod 4.

Whaaaat? Tiny map? These are some of the biggest maps Dice have ever made. Few guns? Nobody knows how many guns will be in this game yet. Vehicles and features? Nobody yet has a clue about the content the game will ultimately have.
Now don’t take this personally ok? I don’t care what anyone has told you but…SMOKING DOPE IS BAD FOR YOU!