discarding non-empty magazines/clips on a reload in BF3/BF4 is a design bug.
Please fix it so non-empty mags are put into the players pouch and will be reloaded after all full mags are cycled through. Only discard fully emptied magazines!
I.e. start with 3x 30 round mags. Shoot #1 (30) empty, reload #2 (30), shoot 2nd down to 11 bullets, reload #3 (30), shoot down to 6 bullets, reload #2 (11), empty #2, reload #3 (6), empty #3 … OUT OF AMMO.
I constantly am forced to play support role because when I do tactical reloads as a sniper… after 4 or 5 reloads I am out of ammo already even when I only use one shot per mag.
Tactical reload has to be in a modern shooter game, it’s basically like 10-20 lines of some math code calculating the mags.
No, it’s not, because when you discard a mag, you’re not going to pick it back up to keep it. It will fall out, and you will reload. Welcome to hardcore mode. Don’t play it if you don’t like it, that’s what the rest of us do.
Post so bad even the forums don’t recognize that you posted.
While I agree that it would make sense in your case, I wouldn’t want this mechanic ingame in the current state.
What I would promote would be the option to reload and save the old mag. This could be done by holding R, maybe?
However, this should take more time than a normal reload. And I honestly don’t think that something like that would be implemented after such a long time.
Sorry but if you don’t know how special forces operate then go read about it.
Magazines are NEVER thrown away. Even empty ones.
But that’s not even the point.
If you want realistic ammo management in a Hardcore mode then you implement realistic mechanics
like mag merging and independent ammo tracking per mag in your inventory. It’s pretty simple.
It has been done before in games that focus on weapon realism:
(those are perfectly researched reload mechanics)
Also BF4 raises the claim to be a mordern realistic shooter. So they should just fix it.
Discarding half empty magazines is a BUG. End of discussion.
It’s not a design bug - it’s called mag dumping. It’s a feature intentionally put into the mode to make it “harder”. You don’t conserve your ammo, pay attention to how much you’re shooting, and dump half a mag? That’s your fault, and you lose that remaining magazine. It directly coincides with the fact that your ammo counter portion of your hud is not available.
This isn’t real life, and comparing it to real life is going to get you nowhere. This game (not even hardcore) is not and has never been “realistic”.
These are not “special forces” soldiers in real life situations - these are virtual soldiers in an arcade shooter video game.
There has never been any BF game in this history of the franchise to EVER “claim it’s a modern realistic shooter” - you’re talking right out of your rear-end on that one. There are very few things in this game that are even remotely “realistic”.
I ONLY play bolt-action Recon and play Hardcore quite a bit as well - if you’re reloading after only firing one shot - you deserve to run out of ammo. That in itself is poor ammo management. You should learn the gun you’re using, count the number of shots you have left, and only reload with a non-empty mag when it’s absolutely needed.
I have absolutely no problem with running out of ammo while using sniper rifles in hardcore. If you do, it’s because YOU are not managing your ammo correctly in the gamemode - not the game.
This is how hardcore was MEANT to be. And it was DESIGNED to drop the entire mag regardless of how much ammo is left. Thats the point. The developers made it this way so it would add another layer of difficulty. It is in essence just a form of item management… you have to choose. Save all your bullets and risk not hitting the target next time u fire and running out of ammo and having to reload thus resulting in your death… or do you reload ahead of time, losse some ammo, but win the next fire fight since you have a full clip ready to go…
If you dot like this design decision, then buy your own server… there you can set it to hardcore, AND turn off the drop full magazine option…
Ps- this is a design choice by the developers, and it even says it somewhere on one of their main website pages… like the ACTUAL dice or battlefield website…
I’d like to add by saying I don’t know of any military, law enforcement agency or other private based militant group ever not dropping mags in the midst of a full on firefight. If they have 2 rounds estimated, they will drop and reload. This is the basis of HC. More realistic warfare.
