PTFO : "Move, soldier!" - NEW GAMEPLAY MECHANIC IDEA -/ moving boundaries / trench warfare

Battlefield 1 General Discussion
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So…how to solve PTFO? How to make sure a group of randoms helps you take trenches, etc.

I’m wondering how to make soldiers take trenches, objectives, artillery, etc…when many players in other games and modes sit back and do not progress up the field…the best I can come up with is that for perhaps in Rush/Conquest etc. that when there is a Commander / Squad lead, etc. allow them to issue commands that soldiers must take a trench / etc…DICE can implement some sort of game mechanic where when the order is given a clock / boundary is implemented and if the orders are not followed and the soldier does not help attempt to follow the command that the soldier is ‘out of bounds’ killed. I’m no history buff…but I believe in WWI any soldier that would not brave the command of his lead would be shot on site instead of left behind to cower in fear.

Am I wrong? Constructive thoughts / suggestions welcomed!

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‘Going over the top’ it was called going over the top, when you had to leave the trenches by order of the commanders.

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I like the idea of an incentive for soldiers to ptfo but not this one. It makes he battlefield smaller and I like that battlefield is big. Can you thing of a deferent way. Maybe slowly subtract points when your outside of an objective area..

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You cant force people to play how you want. People do what they want in videogames.

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ya something has to be done I mean no one wants rounds like bf4 is right now where teams get steam rolled losing by 750 tickets in a 800 ticket server because all the players are camping on hill sides and even you’re armor is stationed there with them. I can count on one hand all the games that were close and all the games that were blow outs are to many to count. I don’t know what needs to be done to get people to play objectively but negative points sounds pretty good. maybe make objective points a lot more than points for killing players. maybe every player killed is 25 or 50 points and every flag capped and/or defended is 150 or something.

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Thank you capt. Obvious. Since you cant force people to ptfo you have to give them an incentive (points). I personally would like a bigger incentive (more points)

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I agree… This would be have to be done because you agreed to participate in this mode / gamestyle…

BTW…I appreciate the feedback so far…the points thing may work, but I’m no point-hoarder…I like wins…not K/D and points…so…perhaps if you are not in a squad you can do what you want…but if you participate within a squad or agree ( up front ) to be under a commander in this mode something like this would apply…perhaps “dies from trench-foot / gangrene” for those unwilling to move-up… ( haha? )

Those that want to “play it your own way” have server and game mode options where this would never apply.

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Only objective points count towards weapon unlocks.

Kills still count toward rank though

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Or perhaps no K/D in this game-mode shown/ only Win/Loss tallied and points only awarded for pursuing the commander’s and or squad leader’s objectives…

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Yes but kills are also important to winning but you also need to follow the object so 4X bonus if you win. If you lose you just receive the points you earned

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In BF2, commander’s score was doubled at the end of the round. This really gave an incentive for commanders to try to win. Everyone should have this incentive in BF1

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This is unambiguously the worst idea i’ve ever heard proposed for a game.

i’d rather die than listen to what some dips­hit commander or squad leader who i’m almost guaranteed to be a better and smarter player than, telling me what to do. And i sure as hell am not going to expect some randoms, who paid THEIR OWN MONEY for the game, to be forced to be my glorified caddies just because i happen to be the squad leader.

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Then don’t be their squad leader then. You have authority issues. You don’t force them, you lead them. If they don’t want to be lead, they can play lone wolf. No one is forced to do anything. There should be incentives to play the game how it was made to play

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So…how do you really feel about it?

Haha…I get that too…o.k. then…I surely don’t want a 12 year old issuing commands…but I’m also assuming the ability to vote / kick commanders and or squad leads as well…

Let’s say…assuming you care about making people play the objectives that you propose something entirely new and I’ll be the judge of it…

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Just simply receive 4X bonus after a win. This encourages people to win. How do you win? You have to play the objective. Still some will not ptfo but it encourages most people to win and that’s what’s important for the majority to enjoy the game.

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no one’s going to be in a squad under this scenario, and the scenario still includes the commander.

this isnt an incentive anymore than torture is an “incentive” to confess.

we dont need to force people to do anything. i dont care if someone doesnt want to play the objectives. if my team is too useless, i’ll find a new server. im not the boss of them. we all paid 60 bucks, stop worrying about what other people are doing. change yourself, dont change them.

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Thanks for your positive and constructive feedback.

I see what you’re saying…I still tend to disagree that people ( should ) care about points in this game mode. Maybe I should be more specific as the more I think about it that it may take a certain new ‘game-mode’ in addition to some new mechanic as I’ve proposed.

This way people only should be there who want to be there. It’s not like anyone has ever forced anyone to play a squad death-match or obliteration if all they care about is conquest.

That’s not to say that in general on existing known modes such as conquest I 10000% agree that those changes to point structure would be welcomed.

I guess there would be ‘normal’, ‘hard-core’, and ‘commanded’ ( new PTFO mode ) or something…

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no one would play your terrible mode.

No one wants to play a mode where they’re forced to follow some random person under threat of death. That’s not a game, that’s the Trail of Tears.

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Lol yeah I like that name instead, PLFO mode.

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we dont need to force people to do anything. i dont care if someone doesnt want to play the objectives. if my team is too useless, i’ll find a new server. im not the boss of them. we all paid 60 bucks, stop worrying about what other people are doing. change yourself, dont change them.[/quote]

Right…again…I guess what I’ve proposed would be in-force only on this new ‘mode’ I’m proposing as ‘commanded mode’ or something. Then players who are not willing / want to be bothered with taking orders serious would be free to play traditional conquest / etc…

Commanders and potential commanders / squad leads would have a Win/Loss record displayed in addition to the ability of a team or squad to vote them in or out…but again…it’s a voluntary thing in the end for those who are interested…No one cares or wants to make you spend your precious $60 doing this mode and giving new things a try…if that came out ‘sarcastic’ I’m not looking to start anything…it’s just that I’ve seen what my $60 dollars in the past has gotten me and I’m not 100% convinced they care that players who want to PTFO in new ways are being heard.