Race in Battlefield 1 and how inaccurate it truly is.

Battlefield 1 is in no way shape or form a historically accurate depiction of WW1, if it were, we’d have less Tanks, less fully automatic machine guns and a lot more French and Russians. So I am aware of this when I say that the racial diversity shown in the game is completely inaccurate, here is why.

I will primarily be focusing on Britain and Germany as they are the two who have the least accurate depictions in the game. The Otto Man Empire is correctly displayed as Turks and Arabs, DICE has stated that the Harlem Hellfighters is what the the American faction is based upon and therefore are all black, Austro-Hungaria is was infact the most diverse amry in WW1, with ethnicities such as solvaks, slovinians, romainians and even some italians, but all of them were white, DICE did seem to get this right though.

The British did have colonies in Africa and they did use Africans in the war, but not in Europe. They were in fact opposed to the idea of using africans, but the idea of using a 1 million black man army was actually presented, but never followed through. Next up is the Indian Medic, over 100 000 Indians did serve in France and Belgium, but when you take into count the 8.9 million troops that Britain did use during the war, they are still a minority.

Next up is the German Empire, which also had colonies in Africa, the Caribbean and Asia. Little is know about how many Blacks actually served in WW1 for Germany, but what is known about them indicates that they were of such a rarity that you’d have a very hard time finding one with a rifle in hand. DICE did only make one of the 4 classes black, but this is still an incorrect representation as the uniform that the Scout uses is that used in the Western front, there are 5 known cases of Germans serving in Europe, of which 2 of them were kettle drommers and one one part of one such band. Germany did in fact use blacks to keep the peace in its African colonies and even then they were a minority compared to the 11 million in total sent there to defend all of it’s colonies.

In conclusion I have no idea who did research into the races of each of the armies in the game, but they should be fired. If you did it to show how progressive you are as a studio I want to congratulate you on being being very disrespectful towards the actual soldiers of World War 1.

A very easy solution to this issue is to simply have us as the player choose what race we want to be for each of the classes in the game you had the option in the Alpha and Beta.

SOURCES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Empire#World_War_I

Doesn’t matter, DICE had to make their racial quotas. Its 2016, not 1916!!

Not all of the Brits had cheeky chappy ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (edit, the sound of someone born within earshot of the Bow bells in London clearly offends these forums, C ockney is not really swaering…) accents either - in fact a minority of them did. I wanna Pals Battalion

Seriously, is this a big thing to get hung up on in a game?

I don’t get how it is being disrespectful to someone who fought in WW1 if the players in a game are portrayed as a different ethnicity, unless you are assuming that THEY would be annoyed about it. I deeply suspect they would have seen enough blood and carnage, and would tell you politely to bugger off.

It is just the German Scout class that is black, correct? If that is so, It would seem a bit suspicious as the reasoning behind that decision in regards to that particular nation; maybe as a means to sick it to Germany, based on WW2 3rd Reich ideology..

Oh for * sake!

2016 and people are still offended by ones skin pigmentation; worse, by pixels in a video game.

Using Wikipedia is the worse thing to do; I could’ve edited all the pages last night and you’d still think it’s true
You couldn’t change your face in alpha and beta so another fact you got wrong.

Maybe Dice did this to highlight those that fought. Afro-Germans were a thing; get over it.
American - Assault, Support, Medic are white whilst the scout is black (Harlem Hellfighter)
British - Assault, Support are white whilst the medic is Indian and the scout is black
Germany - Assault Support medic are white whilst scout is black.

Wow a massive one class for three nations is black; ‘ermgerd that’s disrespectful to those that fought!’
That is sickly that you think that. Yes the majority of those that fought were white but other ethnicities fought as well. How dare dice highlight that.

You say your aware of the game not being entirely realistic (actually hundreds of tank and mgs but whatever) so why does the pixels on a fictional charcter in a video game, offended you so much and cause disrepect those that served?

Grow up. I assume you must be a yank because they were the only nation to segregate their forces; everyone else got along fine regardless of their skin pigmentation, they were equals in this war.

This thread again..

Uhm you might wanna learn your history some more there was and still is a large population of blacks in germany, they even had some German black officers. Also dice never said the game was historically accurate. And the French and Russians are coming in future dlc.

French army should have Harlem hell fighters as one of their class. It is historically correct since the US military sent them over to the French for support. The French loved them and wanted more black Americans and less of the White Americans because apperantly they were routy lol.

Anyway, I don’t mind so much the fact that DICE made blacks specific to the scout class. I actually do think that’s tipping the hat to those that fought in war. That said, where’s the Latinos and Asians that also fought in battle? If you include black might as well go all out right?

The idea of creating your own soldier would be a dream in Battlefield but for some reason DICE hasn’t picked up what players want in an FPS, especially one with little gun customization.

Because it’s the current year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06lLDDe-b4

Yeah. Sorry but just stop, actually not sorry, just stop. People feel the need to bring up race no matter wtf something is now. It’s a video game. If it was all white people would cry, all black same, all Asian same. I’ll tell you what a fact is 100% without a doubt, people are always looking for something to complain about. Go complain about something that actually matters other than the race of your character in a fictional video game

This ^^

Who.the.hell.cares…

Forced diversity is bad because it’s forced. Give people the option to customise their soldier and these threads for the most part will stop. I wont change mine because I dont give a crap about the skin colour I give a crap about the forcing bit.

The Cavalryman is also black.

Interesting that you mention this as anti-Germanism is actually a very important ideology, especially in Germany itself. An interesting example of this: the author of “Storm of Steel” (which the Prologue of BF1 is seemingly named after) received an award for his writing, and to insult him - and shame the people giving him the award - the anti-Germans created a gay musical version of this WWI book. And he was never even a ¯_(ツ)/¯, one of his books actually suggested some of the horrible things going on at the time (this was at the height of ¯_(ツ)/¯'s purges, so extremely dangerous for him to write something like that) and he was one of the main proponents of the plan to assassinate ¯_(ツ)_/¯.

“Germany In Autumn” is a really interesting film about the ideology, and shows how extreme the anti-National Socialist movement became.

I dont care about races I’m just upset about the guns they put in game.

The really annoying thing I find is they locked the most used weapons from the era into the scout class with the most useless gadgets.

Give me BA rifles across all classes so I can heal/revive/supply/kill tanks and still use real WWI guns.

Stupidest decision DICE made.

As a Yank, I find your comment comical and misplaced. We can all go back into our history and find instances that we can choose to be ashamed of or embarrassed by if we want. I know that the bulk of Germany isn’t particularly fond of the Swastika and I’d even go so far as to say that Britain isn’t exactly getting along with it’s Muslim population even today.

Let us not cast stones when our own glass walls could shatter from a ricochet.

This theme has already been discussed aplenty since Alpha, there’s no need for more threads, besides it being turned into a user vs user, there’s clearly no need for this to end in (yet again) possible bans for others…

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