There are indeed cheaters on console in this game!

The video isn’t about mouse and keyboard or specialty controllers. Happy? I just didn’t want people misled by your assumptions. The SMK GAMING video has nothing to do with MNK or specialty controllers. I just didn’t want people to get steered away by an erroneous assumption.

No disconnect here, just your obtuseness.

I’m totally in the camp of “aimbots etc don’t exist on console”. When I see evidence to the contrary I’ll happily accept I was wrong.

However that smk video on you tube is insane. The guy in the video goes to serious lengths to manipulate the game and various accounts etc. No blatant hacks or anything so you would have to properly look into it to find him cheating, which I’m happy to say smk does very well!

Seriously though, what kind of loser would run multiple ps4’s just to manipulate the team make up to give him better odds!

Why would EA allow it to happen for over two years is a much better question. These exploits aren’t new or rare or hard to detect. A cheaters money is just as green as anybody else’s and EA knows it so they allow it to happen again and again and again. Everything they say about AC is just a snow job.

Apex Legends just released using Easy Anti Cheat. BFV did not. BF1 did not. That was by choice. By design. Easy Anti Cheat isn’t perfect either but it’s thousands of times better than BFV’s completely ineffective AC.

Because there’s no foolproof way of knowing whether a person has one ps4, Or multiple ps4’s ( besides ip addresses ) but even then, That could be explained away by multiple users living in an apartment with flatmates that split bills between them and like to hang out on BFV together on their own systems.

Heh, you quoted a post that got lost to the ether.

Some rando PS4 player had no problem detecting his cheating and proving it… Did you watch the SMK GAMING youtube video? Your reply seems to imply you haven’t. The video disproves your one legged argument. You should check it out.

Actually, I did.

We follow each other on twitter so I’m not unaware of the video.

What I’m saying here, Despite that video showing the lengths that particular user went to, Is that in order to combat that issue, There would need to be a way to find out who is using multiple consoles and joining the same server.

And on TOP of that, There would need to be a way of determining if those 2 consoles are the same player, Or whether or not the 2 consoles are being used by 2 users playing together.

The only logical way of combating this, would be to restrict one console to one user per household, And you know that would be almost impossible to enforce.

Exploiting the game by using multiple systems at the same time to give you that advantage is a pretty extravagant method. Bought multiple copies of the game, have multiple ps4’s and monitors to use at the same time, not only be playing the game but trying to manage sometimes 3 accounts switching between them to stop them being kicked out the game etc. I mean that’s some serious effort just to mask how bad you actually are.

How do EA/dice detect that? They would have to monitor for accounts that have dubious inactive stats (virtually no kills etc) but large playtime indicating they are potentially a ghost account. Then they have to look who the ghost account has as friends to see if they can find a link between the ghost and any possible cheaters.

To counter that the guy just gets some kills and deaths every so often and the ghost account now looks like a bad player rather than a suspicious or inactive one, or better still just makes a new account.

Honestly, it sounds like a mine field, I imagine they can detect hacks that they are seeing on pc. detecting this looks to me to be very manual and labour intensive, I don’t think EA are going to pay wages to do that, not for a very small minority of people that go to these lengths.

Don’t get me wrong I wish they would but realistically, it’s not happening.

Whatever you say chief. You’re the boss. Everything you say that can’t be accomplished was accomplished in the STK GAMING video by a guy using nothing more than his stock PS4. No need to limit the number of consoles in a house. You’re just making things up to fit a narrative. I’m not going to go back and fourth with a mod over a one legged argument.

Well, lets just give a synopsis of what we’ve accomplished here on this thread thus far.

The OP claimed cheating was going on, on consoles. He was berrated seemingly, in that folks felt cheating does not exist on consoles.

I and many others, posting vids, now including @rockin master, showing, not only does it exist, but to such an extent, it’s even WORSE than PC, in that nothing can really be done, as maybe it can be on the PC platform, being it’s more easily detectable, and easier to enforce.

We’re making progress lol.

He’s actually got a point. He isn’t saying it can’t be accomplished but since the ghost and genuine account come from the same IP the logical thing is to do something regarding the IP address. Maybe they could potentially monitor accounts from the same IP for activity and then analyse that data to determine if the account is being used genuinely or not, however it’s probably quite a manual process.