It is cheating. It is unfair advantage.
Not a grey zone.
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please view the post by oskool_007. I do not know where or when he was able to get that quote off jjju. it’s a solid assessment of the situation. one I agree with. emulators are not a big deal and the real issue none of you have ever experienced is going up against real mouse and keyboard support. like I said before, fear not. the devs are taking controller users feelings into consideration big time.
the topic needs to evolve. you guys keep holding strong that it’s cheating when it’s not. catch up to where the devs are: how will native support be implemented if at all? next title? imo if they do support it, I’d suspect they’ll support it when bfv is on its last legs and the next title is soon to come out, with the next tittle supporting it.
I don’t believe there is cheating/hacking on console and so far the reports tend to consist of “this person had a high number of kills” or “I saw this person get loads of headshots”. If there was evidence wouldn’t it be on YouTube by now?
Regarding kbm, If they are being used on Xbox then they aren’t helping because I’m more than holding my own using a controller.
To put the op’s example into context, I had 3 games last night and went something like 44-3, 25-5, 23-3. Now i’m no battlefield machine but I managed a similar score to the example given, does that mean I must have been cheating?
Just because someone had a high score or a lot of kills doesn’t mean they are cheating. However if believing that there are hackers makes you feel better about your experience in the game then crack on.
Oh true, i agree 100%. But that’s who they seem to listen too.
Akways wondered how they managed to be that good with controler on console , but they use mouse and keyboard!!!
Yep, a mouse and keyboard AND cheats to go along with it lol.
Are they m/k with aim assist?? That would be insane.
If you want to shut up the “there is no cheating on console” flat earth dent heads head over to SMK GAMING on youtube and watch his last video. I would have created a new discussion but I’ve been jailed. Someone else should. Especially if you are as tired as I am of PR firm shills saying there is no or almost no cheating on console.
Put it in General discussion, don’t post a link, don’t give a name. It clearly shows what a complete farce AC is in both BF1 and BFV.
SMK GAMING deserves some serious recognition for his work. If you care about Battlefield you owe it to yourself to check it out.
This has been posted many times already. To be fair though, this is a different, more labor intensive, form of cheating. What you are referencing is not controller enhancements or scripts.
Right, well, it’s already been established there’s certainly cheating on consoles, with Cronus and other cheating devices. We’re probably beyond that now, to k&m discussions. I personally believe the “flat earth” folks you mentioned (and you’re right), are being a bit disengenous at best.
Probably being they’re PC folks, that want DICE to focus on cheating over there, and not to put focus on consoles , being it would take away work on their end.
I mean, some of these folks just don’t strike me as that stupid to think cheating don’t happen on consoles, even with the proof provided right in front of them. So, a bit of lying to meet their purpose, and maybe some trolling on that.
PC-guy here, I think it’s an issue with both. They are connected and should be dealt with for all players - the same team on EA’s end can do this. They just are not.
Have you watched the video? It has absolutely nothing to do with MNK. SMK GAMING.
There’s no need for me to watch it. I own Cronus to use my 360 controller on PS4. I already know what it can do, and that there is cheating. I don’'t need convincing of that.
I think Rockin
is talking about SMK GAMING’s video on a player on console who uses ghost accounts on both teams so he could switch teams (boosting win rate) and possibly watching the ghost accounts mini map to know where the enemy is. It has nothing to do with the cronus or other emulators, just a player using multiple accounts in a single match to gain an advantage.
No it hasn’t, the video just went up yesterday. Why are you following me around telling me what to post?
Are you a mod? please stop.
The video isn’t about mouse and keyboard.
I honestly do not see the problem. Nobody that plays Fifa on PC uses mouse and keyboard, they will have a controller, because it is the better option. I have a PS4 controller on my desk to drive in GTA or for Steep. I can also, within a minute switch from my desk to my TV and play BFV or anything else on there, if I so desire.
Playing an FPS with a controller is inherently a bad idea, it is like peeling a potato with my fingernail. Allowing keyboard and mouse for the console is the solution to this “problem”. There would be no need for adapters and you would still have the added benefit of having a closed system and a cheaper system and you could finally play with precision.
Even if you like to play on the couch there are easy solutions to that.
Was my post about mouse and keyboard? I think there may be a disconnect here lol.
So, if it’s well known that there is cheating then where is the bust for it. Unless they’re uploading or a gameplay streamed how do you catch it? Their “it’s not cheating ‘coz EA/DICE hasnt banned me and inputs tailor expandable button pusher yakety yak” sass mouth punk argument is imo of course why they can’t. Which is as astonishing to me as impressive. Hardware detection has been around for decades soo, does is diguise itself too? The ability to do it with your hands is skill but plugging in a device to do it for you is a cheat. Cheaters arguments are business as usual and an low creative strategy, redefine their actions, invent vocabulary to describe their activity, deny deny deny when caught in a lie.
The fact that this ‘issue’ just goes on and on show how unhealthy gaming can be.
There should have been a ruling on this and the matter dealt with decisively.
Instead you have people trying to justify cheating and then others trying to gather up evidence some searing logic to defeat that.
Just sort it out. It’s not healthy for this to drag on.