IMO There was no visibility issue. Is this not a game based on a war setting? Is camo not supposed to work? Do players really not want to go stealthy?
If the players are so concerned about enemy visibility , don all the characters in bright pink clothing with no choice to customize. Happy ? you can see everyone now. No hiding. Doesn’t that sound stupid?
I personally love that fact that I can hide using the shadows or terrain that matches my camo uniform. It allows me to defend objectives or ambush runners trying to flank the bulk of our team. Please Dice, don’t ruin this game by listening to bad players.
As for you bad players. 3d spotting exists… its in the scout class. They are called binoculars. Make a squad , have one of your squad members play scout. shouldn’t be hard to get a sniper. This was a squad based teamwork game right? You run with your squad to objectives. You win more often that way.
Except the ones moving are harder to hit while the prone ones are easy targets. What’s the point in playing MMG if there is nothing to balance out the advantage of movement versus “sitting duck”? And if the answer is “don’t play prone” then take MMG’s out of the game.
I started off playing MMG and while it’s a challenge to find places to rest while shooting the enemy, I did enjoy it. Now I no longer enjoy it. In fact, running around rezzing people on my medic means I die less. Movement > being prone. Do you not get it?
Incorrect. I don’t think you have ever used/experienced camouflage. It works amazingly well and can IN FACT keep you from seeing someone literally 5 feet away.
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Whenever I pull out my ultra-lethal Spotting Scope and all those little red icons start appearing everywhere , my Squad and other Mates will suddenly change from a frustrating bunch of ‘Afraid To Advancers’ into a deliciously savage swarm of ‘Impossible To Stops’ .
Whenever I use my stealth skills to get all the way to the far Flag by myself and then suddenly have a half-dozen or more Mates joining me in the Cap or firefight , it’s usually because Enemy Run-n-Gun-types weren’t looking around for guys like me in the first place , like they absolutely should have .
Whenever I stand BY cover and stare at any Great Beyond for 3 WHOLE seconds for possible danger , I quite rightfully get my head blown off by a Recon or swiss-cheesed by an Auto , but if I just take a quick peek and actually USE the cover , what happens is they usually shoot and blow THEIR cover .
I for one am truly grateful that there’s been no ‘Day-Glo’ stitches sown into a patient that only *needed a ‘Band-Aid’ (*it wasn’t needed)
Today , there is still NO COUNTER to the Stealth Game I sometimes Play , other than ‘pure’ vigilance on the Enemy’s part .
It’s STILL a Battlefield Game .
Thank You !
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re : ‘Where’s the danger?’ in that snow pic on Pg2?
I see a guns shadow on the snowline at the bottom of the darker rocks just right of center screen .
True , I wouldn’t have seen him in time ‘your way’ and I’d usually die , but ‘my way’ it’s him that’ll usually die after he gets just one or two landed bullets in on me.
Also , If in that split-second of ‘my way’ peeking I’m HS’d by an expert marksmen (which it looks like) , then I feel camo or lighting didn’t really matter anyway .
Skill killed me .
If they do this @DANNYonPC I’d hope they allow us to disable going on our back completely in the options as I never intentionally lay on my back but frequently find myself in that position trying to cap a flag.
Since we’re on topic of unrealistic things, Dice should also disable bunny hopping, ADADAD spamming, twitching and of course add stamina bar to all classes, because it’s totally unrealistic that a soldier can sprint full on for an hour, packing 3 bazookas and a ton of explosives. Also need to bring back suppression, because it’s unrealistic that someone could be unloading a 1200 rpm into your body, but you won’t twitch for a second.
So, I totally agree - let’s get rid of unrealistic things!
Yes. It. Is. Everyone screams ‘you shouldn’t be camping then hurrhurr’. Then what exactly do you want Mg players to do? What do you expect from us? If we don’t lay down WE WON’T KILL ANYTHING. Why is that so hard to understand? You’re asking for an INTENDED/DESINGED playstyle to be removed and there’s so much whining from run n gun cod action man that dice is catering to it. At this rate there’s no reason for MGs being in the game. I’m sorry you don’t have the attention span to sit still but some of us actually do. This really boils my blood. Just because everyone zergs doesn’t mean you’re supposed to.