What do you do when your squad leader is a camping sniper in BF4?

What are your options? Aside from leaving the squad and joining another one?
Perhaps the better question is why would BF4 allow a camping sniper to be a squad leader in the first place?

If he really does absolutely nothing, I request an order, wait until I become a squad leader and boot him. Regarding the second question, the game won’t exactly be able to determine the way you’re planning to play before you even spawn.

That’s true. But even if the game COULD determine such a thing, there’s no mechanism to relieve inattentive squad leaders.

I don’t care because it’s a pub, and he’s a casual who can do whatever he wants. After he Battlefield aims to be an accessible game right LordMang? As last time I checked you believed people should be able to do whatever they want on Battlefield, or have you changed?

Besides, if he’s a good sniper he can do much more for the team than playing as another class, though the odds of a pub player being useful is incredibly slim.

If the player is a good sniper (which most pub server snipers are NOT), then he should have no interest in being the squad leader.

Perhaps you’re right. Perhaps it’s time for BF to just get rid of squad leaders and squads entirely.

This, if finding a better squad is not an option. I won’t boot him though, unless the squad is full.

I’ve had to team switch a lot today.
I keep ending up on teams that have so many snipers, that we lose all our flags.
To the snipers on my team: it’s hard to capture a flag when you’re a mile away camping on a rock.

I’ve been crying out for accessible for months , if not years now. More accessible more casual. Immersive! The casual gamer demographic needs to do these things to protect EA and their shareholders.

So have I. It looks like our prayers have been answered. Have you seen the BF1 reveal? It’s great!

Well, ‘request order’ mechanism actually is present exactly for that reason. For what it’s worth, it’s good that it actually is difficult to abuse it.

I tried using “request order” once and it worked (relieved the squad leader of command).

But I don’t think I’ll ever do that again as I had to request orders about 10+ times or so for it to work. I felt bad for the squad as it basically spammed the chat text box of the squad.

i think that…sorry for that…you need some friends to play togheter.
Dont look at me , i hate to play with a noob :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, there are few twists to it… for example, request order timer for squad takeover doesn’t seem to start if you request orders while squad leader is dead (which actually makes sense).

Regrettably, the squad leader rarely died.
He was a camping sniper and liked to camp far, far away from the flags.

The fact people expect squad leaders to do anything in pubs is insane.

Even if the squad leader is giving orders who says they’re actually good let alone know the best objectives to send his squad too? There’s no commander who hes following orders from or getting info

If you want teamwork you have to create it yourself, by playing with other players who have mics and similar mindsets themselves, as the average casual does not want teamwork just a mindless shooting experience. The tools are there for teamwork yes, but you need to utilize them yourself, pub squads will not do it on their own.

Usually i will just tell the squad leader kindly if he can switch kits and move but if he don’t respond then you will have to switch squads.

So perhaps the whole concept of squad leaders and squads should be removed for pub servers completely. I have yet to see a pub server squad that wasn’t composed of clan members work together effectively.
Perhaps DICE should make a squad version for clans and a non-squad version for the rest of us pub server gamers.

I do see people work together as a team but i barely see people use squad mics since we have teamspeak and more programs that allow people to communicate.

@Colonel-_-Victor
Then there’s the issue of locking squads.
I recently played a match where EVERY SINGLE squad was locked and partially full.
What’s the point of having squads if you can’t join one in the first place?

Well you can message them or type on chat to unlock squad but if that happens all time then bring friends to play with. Switch servers could be your last resort though.