Why is this game so different?

Why has DICE so far departed from it’s past games? BF games were known in the past for teamwork and vehicles. Now it seems like most- if not all modes players aren’t playing objectives (unless you’re in your platoon or with some friends). Medics don’t heal. People don’t repair your vehicle. Does anyone drop ammo? Snipers rule some maps, shotguns are over powered. So unless you’re grouped up, you’re like chicken bait hanging by a rope for the gator. I don’t know why such a preference is given to snipers and why vehicles don’t work well, and some if not all maps aren’t made good for them getting around.
I’ve loved DICE BF games, and I’m still playing- but I hope DICE finds it’s roots.

Okay.

A couple of maps are too Scout friendly, but it’s nowhere near as bad as people hyperbolically make it out to be. I actually find I get revived more in BF1 than I ever did in BF4, though still not as much as is ideal. As for repairs and ammo support just seems really unpopular in general. Not sure why when it has guns like the Parabellum and Madsen. Shotguns aren’t OP. They’re very inconsistent which is hopefully getting patched with the TTK changes.

I see all those things as well, but i just enjoy the game too much to really make a fuss about it. I doubt at this point their going to change anything.

Sounds like every Battlefield to date.

You pretty much described every Battlefield ever released. DICE can give the tools for Team Work but they can’t force people to use those tools.

We need Battlefield 2 gameplay back with no blackhawk nerfing!

The first nerf brought about by tears in the forums! they were so awesome until they ruined them and boy did DICE render them obsolete after it

Repairtool shouldnt be optional bu standart equipment for people in the tank. So the soldier must get out first if he wants to repair. The driver can always repair.

I stopped reading when you said shotguns are overpowered..you clearly don’t know what you are talking about.

I still play BF2 AIX 2.0 mod! with patch 1.42 before the blackhawk nerfing! The way the blackhawk minigun should be feared! I still get a tear in my eye when I think of that nerf! You are correct it was totally obsolete after it!

They want this game to be cod kid friendly…

Because if I wanted the same thing over and over I wouldn’t waste 70€, and stick to BF4 instead.

Really? Do they? How is that?

Lol, a lot of the very best players I know came from COD and they excel at BF1.

But as for medics in BF1, they’re way better than in previous titles. I went back to BF4 a few times over the last few months and of the 3-4 multiple hour sessions, I was revived twice. TWICE. I get revived quit a bit in BF1, and I think it’s because they finally made the medic a medic, instead of giving them assault rifles with underslung grenade launchers and shotguns. It also helps that the timeframe for reviving a team mate in BF1 is nice and long. It was so short in BF4, it almost wasn’t worth it to bring defibs.

Compared to BFBC2, BF3 and BF4 the team work is better in BF1 than it’s ever been because it extends beyond the engineer class that just worked together to keep vehicles and killstreaks alive.

Vehicles were team specific in that game so it was a needed nerf.

Idk what the name of the helicopters for mec and china were but the side gun pkms were trash in comparison, it really only brough the miniguns in line with them.

Oh wait, i forgot this wasnt 2005…

I liked the melee action in BFBC2 before there was some stupid animation sequence which gets you killed 25% of the time.
You used to be able to run up a flight of stairs and knife someone for a one hit kill on your way up – faster than you could blink. Now it’s a whole ordeal.

Agreed

Agree with that, but for the team play my best experience was in bf3, so glad they put operation in bf, so they force team play

I actually get resupplied quite a bit in BF1, but I would constantly scream at Support players in BF3/4 for ammo, going so far as to let them die in a firefight and refuse to revive them afterwards if I had a defibrillator.

Ultimately, its not just the game mechanics, but the players that determine the level of team play in a match. If a game has a wide variety of team play elements, but few people use them, guess what will happen?

Very true. When I first got into BF back in BC2 I was admittedly part of the problem. I saw all these gadgets that could help team work but there was little team work, so I didn’t really even try to get revives or resupply since I didn’t see others doing.

It’s still an awesome feeling when you get into a server and you see a squad start using their tools together to put in work.