…or we won’t have a game left.
Nerfing the crap out of bayonet charges now, another fun element gone. Cue whiny U-Tuber “he got me with a bayonet from up close wah-wah-wah”…
Cried about grenades (watch some prominent U-Tuber’s videos, they don’t see the irony of throwing grenade after grenade themselves & then boo-hoo-hooing that their mega+ kill streak is ended by “grenade spam”) - Dice run around & change them.
Murmurs that another U-Tuber doesn’t like sentries in TDM / Dom, even though he doesn’t play those modes, & makes inaccurate assessments of “medic trains” keeping the sentry alive (doesn’t happen) - so thinks they should be taken out.
A few blokes on U-Tube should not have so much influence over the game, Dice should stop sucking up to them.
Yeah sorry, Bayonet charging from point blank with no wind up is not fun nor is it balanced. Jesus you can charge from prone if you know what you are doing with rebinds.
Again auto regening grenades that had the fastest throw to detonation time of any FPS ive seen needed to go. Sorry but that is not fun nor is healthy for game play.
(Nade throw to det times were faster than CoD!)
Time to bust it out but this is a case of:
More crying about crying, what else is new
LoL those were examples. I don’t really care what they do to grenades, my point remains. You Tube video goes up moaning about something, Dice run around & prioritise their whims.
Honestly, you listed some bad examples as quite a few of us normal players support those changes. I do agree that certain people do have too much influence over a lot of games in general though.
Now here’s what gets to me and I have no idea if this is the work of youtubers/streamers but that new “no kill trade within 30 meters” they have on the CTE is total crap.
You are right, grenades = bad example. Like now throw one, get one from a box in a while, should have been like that on day 1.
And bayonets can annoy, oh yes, but they can have you on the floor laughing too..!
Great. I play close quarters. Back to shouting “I got that guy!” at the cat.
One should not be harder to kill just because your bayonet charging, it makes no sense.
Bayonets can still make you laugh, but the free kill charging into a group of enemies while bullets basically bounce off is gone, sorry. That was stupid and should never have been in the game.
I literally lol’d so hard.
I agree with your overall premise, the big youtubers have too much influence on DICE. The nerf to the medical syringe really comes to mind.
YouTubers are in a much better position than 99.99% of other ‘customers’ to comment on game issues. They generally have a wide experience with the game in question and similar games in the genre, either way: -
a) I don’t believe DICE do make decisions based on YouTubers.
b) They should have a load more influence than random forum posters.
Sorry OP picking the nerf of bayonets as an example for YouTubers being ‘wrong’ is a damned bad idea. Bayonet charge has never worked as intended. It’s a great fun mechanic and still will be once you can’t do instant 90-degree turns and get into a charge after 0.05 seconds.
Getting bayonet charged when there is enough time to empty a whole clip into the scrub is not fun at all.It wouldn’t be so bad if you could counter it,but as it is now it is extremely frustrating.
Respectfully, I disagree that YouTubers are in a better position than committed gamers to steer a game through its lifecycle. They are busy doing other things, whilst some of us pick a game & stick with it, warts & all, playing daily. Gripes we have go hang, but a famous guy gets a bee in his bonnet & resources get pumped into that cause.
I shoot as many people running around in circles screaming as I get killed by bayonets. That makes me laugh; if someone gets me, well I know that guy is laughing his balls off too.
As for being random forum posters, maybe so, but in the business sense we are paying customers, & as such should have moreinfluence than a priveleged few who are sometimes sponsored by the devoloper & are often jetted about for publicity.
Yeah its not like these youtubers are known to spread false information or anything.
I disagree. Those people get paid for doing the most polemic video, and for that, for that money, they are more than willing to cry about anything.
Why would they have more influence than any of us here? We are all players and customers.
That’s like saying that the vote of Brad Pitt is worth more than mine.
And, finally, saying that they have a wide experience in this game and others isn’t necessarily true. According to battlefieldtracker, one known youtuber has played 4 days. Even I have played more, so in theory I have more experience than him.
The fact that they “seem” to have experience on the game is simply because they are eager to find some little thing to cry about and post it on a video, and because they (sadly) receive information before the rest of us do so they can make some publicity on their channel.
Like I said: anything for the sweet views/money.
Most of the times they don’t even bother and just repeat what some other youtuber said… so once you see one, you’ve seen them all.
(Oh boy, I could go on and on about this topic).
Or get to the end of a video & a lazy edit shows them playing OOR (through their optimised NetDuma) hip firing at anything that moves…
And what works on PC doesn’t always transfer across to console; I can’t 90degree turn during a bayonet charge on XBox, but I bet I could with a mouse.
Exactly.
YouTubers are also easy targets for everyone to analyse and criticise. But compared to ‘the average gamer’ or forum moaner, they put hours into the games, they put thought into their analyses, they put effort into their presentations.
Sure, YouTubers may have an axe to grind and subs to justify, They even sometimes have views that polarise, so can’t possibly represent everyone’s best interests. Guess what? They are people and have opinions! But you really think they are less well placed than a ‘dedicated gamer’? Those guys are dedicated gamers and prove it every time they produce a vid.
People love to knock everything these days… Try it if you think you’d do a better job.
Those YouTubers are gamers. You may as well say news presenters don’t know anything about current affairs. Some are just talking heads, sure, but most a journalists, etc. Becoming famous doesn’t mean you suddenly know nothing. They know a load more than the average guy ranting at the TV.
^ gonna disagree on the news presenter part; all they do is read a telly prompt. Only seen one go “hang on that’s a load of crap”
Anyway
Yes YouTubers are just like us but they present their opinions etc in a different manner which can be better received. Who’s opinion would you Knod with?
Youtuber x who says stuff of y and z or a ranting frother whose post is 75% censored.
I mean forums and reddit and social media are blantent proof why some people opinions on the game can just be ignore (e.g. “Dice you broke the NetCode!” Whilst that users internet is jittering and losing that much packets you could start a chip factory)
The trouble is the YouTubers can info first (wrong) and get paid trips to events (wrong). I get that it’s Dice/EA doing some PR but it’s generally not received real well by the public. Take the alpha for example.
A major problems is people’s lack of ability to form their own opinion and they blinding follow YouTubers like sheep. Well all know the levelcrap flock sheep is the one of thee prime examples.