The damage-over-distance reduction could be great if it gets more people to finally feel the rush of actually standing in a cap zone, and not 55m off it, prone, going 13-3 for 4400 points over 28 minutes of playtime as a medic.
make SMGs do 0 damage past 50m. why are you engaging enemy from 50m+ with an SMG in the first place? probably because after lying in your bush for four minutes and not seeing anybody, just too exciting to not shoot when you finally do? ditto assault rifles. you SHOULD BE CLOSE to your enemy.
maybe…MAYBE this change will make breakthrough a playable mode, rather than two sides staring at each other from 150m doing like, target practice.
Extending TTK is a terrible idea. DO NOT EXTEND TTK, because playing it very well will slow down the game and hurt it. I have 800 hours in BFV and as TTK extends I stop playing this game. Leave it TTK which is alone because it is good.
I believe it is 100% correct that the gunplay is one of the major factors behind BFVs currently small playerbase. Why? Well, I played since pre-launch and it was painfully obvious in the days after the actual release that many newcomers were in shock when entering and playing BFV for the first time. You would see clusters of players standing together in total apathy, being afraid to move even a single inch because doing so would mean getting shot dead in a split second. And disregard the TTD bug, I’m talking about the totally normal TTD/TTK.
I felt the exact same apathy when starting out playing BFV, and I too was standing in a corner, not knowing how on Earth I should get into playing this new BF game which I had been looking forward to for months.
Unlike many, I stuck around and used Spectate to try and learn from the good players out there by watching how they played.
I think private games launch alongside the TTK changes?
All Dice need to do is allow servers to be set to the current games settings. That’s it.
Those who feel strongly about keeping the game as it is will have the same experience except the servers won’t be full of newbies. There’s no way new players are going to start by getting stuck into Private Games, they’ll stick to the main game first.
While over in the main game new players will hopefully enjoy the game, learn the ropes and in turn stick around and put a little cash into the ‘Skin Trade’.
V becomes a success and the profits in turn go into justifying more investment in V in terms of content which benefits us all.
Either way the new system hasn’t even launched yet, so let’s just see what happens.
Good to see the Battlefield community is staying strong and not turning into hysterical drama queens, good job lads.
I do not approve of the ttk changes. I was just ready to get back into this game. Maybe drop 30 dollars on some elite soldiers. But if you’re going to ruin every gun with a small magazine… I’m out.
Only changes I could see to fix ttk would be rate of fire reduction across the board, or removal of close range headshot bonuses with a stronger damage drop off at 25+ meters. Affecting not headshot damage pre 25meters is going to turn every small magazine gun into a must reload after each kill. And if this was call of duty with slight of hand it wouldn’t be so bad, but it’s not.
Oh btw im pretty sure call of duty has faster ttk and people ate still flocking to it.
The GetGoodGuy spoke about this change a year ago and you could probably just change the date and his video would still be relevant.. LOL
And no I won’t be dropping anymore “BOINS” on your new Pacific Elites now that these changes are being implemented next month. Had you not decided on these ridiculous changes (Spotting and TTK) I would have bought both new skins as a pair. You lose out, not me.
We don’t know that we will be able to set the TTK in the settings for Community Games (no longer called Private Games, get with the program LOL) If we are able to set a hardcore mode that would suit some players. I would like to be able to change via settings to Hardcore ( OHK to body) , TTK 1.0 (current) and an option to set to TTK 3.0 (Patch 5.2) which is the one coming in December which will be the default setting. Ability to turn on or off spotting mechanic with further options to show what type of spotting is allowed (no flare gun, no spotting scope or plane or tank spotting abilities) would be ideal. You could have OHK but spotting like it is now. A mix and match ability if you understand me.. If they have those abilities then I can see ways around this ridiculous change as I will spend my days on custom Community Servers that suit my playstyle.
However, if they don’t allow Community Games Servers to change TTK and Spotting probably time to pack up and go home for me anyway. This is just beyond a joke. I have been playing this game for more time than most people have been married. Maybe it is time to get a divorce
Bottom line is a lot of casuals cant handle the the fast ttk the way it is now. I have at least 20 friends who immediately went back to BF1 or 4 because they could not hack it. I didnt like it at first, then adjusted. Now I’m content the way it is…we are the minority
No. I remember watching it at the time and it had no impact on the population. This was like 16 months into the game, the population was pretty steady at that point and there wasn’t much drop off leading up to the TTK changes and it didn’t increase the population or stopped any decrease.
The increase in bipod LMG use was one of the negative consequences of the change
Apparently it’s due to new players coming into the game and then finding it too hard and either quitting or getting a refund.
They are obviously struggling with player retention and doing this just in time for the Xmas period.
You know, if everybody had the strength, you could empty their servers pretty quick. They’ll listen then. But I suspect most of you MUST turn the game on no matter how many times Dice rubs their butthole right on your mouth.
Maybe now but it is not clear what this will be after the changes are implemented. Going by your calculations we will be worse off than BF3 was ever. The thread is about the changes not what we currently have. There is no point discussing the current TTK which is just fine by the majority of players out there and Youtubers it doesn’t need “fixing” Saying the M416 has “as fast” TTK means nothing and pointless. So what if it is the same now? It’s not going to matter when the Patch 5.2 drops. Then you compare the M415 with the M1907 based upon the ROF being similar. So what? It makes no difference to the fact the TTK is going to be slowed and most of the weapons we use will require an extra bullet to kill , unless you are sniper or bolt action carbine or anti-materiel rifle (boys and panzerbusche)
The only thing that has been OP this entire time is the sticky dynamite. Fix that, then the Fliegerfaust. I’m so sick of camping in tanks because 1 lone assault can wreck my tank
Because the community has been taken over by noobs!
They tremble at the thought that they will have to get off their belly and move closer to the objective and earn their kills! They see their biggest fear becoming reality…they will no longer be able to hide in their dark corners because they will be instantly spotted!
No, I never said any of that. I’m just stating the extreme to get the simple point across that a higher BTK isn’t necessarily a higher TTK. Personally, I hope they don’t change the TTK or it fails miserably, because they’re probably not doing any of this for the core community. Sad to see such repulsive actions after a seemingly solid return.
Guess DICE and their management never fail to disappoint. I will remember that when the next game releases. Don’t care how solid BFV becomes now. They keep throwing their core players under a bus. Again. And again. Might as well switch to Siege or Insurgency Sandstorm. A company that won’t sell one product then throw all of it away to boost sales.
Even though Community Games is releasing, that doesn’t change the fact that they’re still completely disregarding the core. Just like the launch of this game. Which means, as expected, nothing changed aside from the game being more solid. Still excuses nothing.
And I’ll remember that well into the future when I’m deciding to buy the next game. Don’t care if it’s a BC3 or not. Poo on you too.
Deliver on your promise to give us an awesome game by making the game better and pleasing us. Not showing us time and time again the realism of the corporate style management.
I’m pretty tempted to abstain from BFV if the TTK responds like I think it will.
