Idk why (I never played BF1 for long), but recon feels a lot better than BF3/BF4 to me. Aggro recon works, not to the extend of BC2’s Recons, but it works. I’ve had 1 Grand Operation on Hamada/Aerodrome where everything just fell into place and just kept on flanking enemies at medium range and positioning beacons behind enemy lines for the team.
That was probably my craziest recon round yet though, reached near 100 kills during the entire operation and an average SPM of 960’ish.
The only thing I’d wish was that pistols were a bit better (excluding the Revolver).
So far I do prefer M95 though. Can’t quite put my finger on it, but it feels more “reliable” than the other bolt actions.
Recon needs rethinking. I am tired of being trapped as only a sniper with this class. They need different and better weapons. I can barely get kills with the default gun. I don’t even attempt to play it in this low TTK atmosphere. I don’t have a ton of exp with Recon or Sniper, so getting into it as a newer player it just sucks.
It looks like the TTK will be changed quite a bit. Maybe aggressive recon will actually be viable now.
They actually went pretty heavy handed with the changes. More so than I though they were going to be adjusting TTK. I’m glad to hear the assault SLRs gained one more bullet to kill at range though. That should give recon a better chance with bolt actions in their intended range.
I dunno, I never played well with that enfield, bullet velocity was way to slow for my taste… I still think close/medium gewehr m95/30 is best, and for all ranges the best would be Krag Jorgensen (I really love the Krag rifle for some reason).
ZH-29 (still needs buffs as stated before) has its uses as well, but suffers from bad bullet velocity, bullet drop and horrible recoil… Oh, and the bug that make it only load 6/24 bullets instead of 6/36… Lets hope they fix that…
The TTK change uproar is hilarious, now players feel exactly how we felt when we saw that bolt actions deal pathetically low damage compared to earlier BF’s. Serves them right, hypocrites. Since I haven’t seen any damage increase to bolt actions I hope they increase the TTK even more for other class weapons, maybe then it will be balanced.
Oh, forgot to say one important thing to those complaining about the longer TTK:
Stop complaining and just aim for the head, problem solved.
Guys, you dont understand… They nerfed recon too… The recon SLR are useless now, and worst it is for ZH-29, its not 2 hit kill even at close range and have a 6/24 ammo clip…
Its useless… I’m beyond upset and angry and you guys should be too!!!
This thread is about recon class state as a whole, sure main topic is bolt action rifle, but that doesnt mean they can go nerf our already underperforming SLR without us raising our voices against it… A nerf to any weapon recon has, is still a nerf to recon class as a whole, no matter its bolt action rifle or SLR…
What did you think would happen? DICE are already getting abuse from a select group, leaving SLR alone would have the pride of the select group broken.
Beside you reading it wrong. It is only a extra bullet if the lower half or arms is hit, however that is still a 2 HTK if 1 is a headshot and an arm shot.
The TTK changes are design to make headshots more important for all weapons.
The question is do SLR/BA have sufficient time at 70m to fire a 2nd shot on AR/SA/LMG now? An extra bullet to high ROF weapons is meaningless.
Wait to the select group realize they will run out of bullets quickly if firing from range and need to get more ammo it might actual see a drop in the number of Sniper Assaults.
Sadly from personal experience the SLRs hit a whole lot of arms instead of chests since they are holding their arms in front of them and it seems penetration does not take that into account
This is 100% true… And with the fast movement and ADAD spam (or whatever people now call it) its even harder… The low bullet velocity and huge recoil doesnt make it easier either… It sucks… Try it out, the ZH-29, and you will see for yourself… The damage hit numbers is also totally random, also think about the low ammo it has (6/24 weapon stats say 6/36 but this isnt the case, at least on console)…
Why have you not just put him on your ignore list already? He’s pure troll. I have precious few people in there but that guy made the list in record time.
Played 2 games in Conquest, Twisted steel and Rotterdam with Gewehr 95 and Lee Enfield. It felt a lot better actually. Didn’t play aggressively but had some close encounters and also Supports and Assaults shooting at me at range and I beat them while I’d just get dropped instantly in TTK 1.0. More time to aim if you are going for a headshot or hide and peek for a second shot…both works now. PS4.
Only problem with Enfield is the laughable bulllet velocity and huge bullet drop…
Gewehr M95/30 is better in every way and it has a ROF of 67, which is descent… Problem is it suffers from huge bullet drop as well, took a 530m shot with it 1 week ago, bullet velocity and bullet drop was ridicilous…
The only sniper rifle that are reliable is the Krag-Jorgensen, you zero it to 150 and you know most of your shots will hit… sure only ROF of 55 with that setup, but better that then missing half my shots…
The ZH-29 were the only SLR that felt it could work for some ptfo as well, and it did to a certain degree if played smart… But now it sucks… This nerf was 100% uncalled for and unfair…
LMAO yeah they got “helped” with a peashooter SLR that makes the BF1 RSC look like an absolute monster.
meanwhile meme-gun bolts still are useless for everything except hill scrubs unless you’re 1)on PC and 2)a human aimbot ala Stodeh, Nickel, Relaa etc., where you’re still worse off than just running STG and not engaging anyone you see making love to the terrain outside of 50m (snipers and MMGs alike)
