this is why they made the changes so scrubs who were carried by op attack choppers could come and have a circle jerk on the forums
Well, it’s hard to have sane conversations in BL sometimes. And that includes me, my first post was needlessly snarky. Thanks for maintaining civility, I am much more apt to see your point of view especially since you didn’t respond in kind to my bad attitude.
lol good stuff 
Haha, laugh every time i see this … and it´s so true.
Agree. Attack chopper is a fucking joke in bf4. Little bird is better than that pile of crap.
i place c4 on attack choppers and go kamikaze on their arses.
since you can’t even last a second in the air, why die without a blast??
Lol really only thing you can do as it is right now. Only problem is: If you exit the chopper it runs you over, so no c4 for you. Haha 
Sure, that will be fun a couple of times … but then i am afraid it will just be meeeeh.
The only map you can remotly enjoy flying the A-Chopper is Dawnbreaker, just up until you round a building corner to find the MAA standing there glaring at you and in the next ms have the chopper ripped in to a million pieces.
But atleast you have some cover to avoid those Noob lock-on´s.
Agreed, DerFetteDetlef. Good post!
Why don’t you get it.
Helicopters are the whole reason I completely stopped playing conquest in BF3. They finally nerfed the double flares(pilot had flares + gunner had flares) wayyy too late in the game to keep the players that left.
Helicopters were unstoppable for the most part, even with me being pretty decent at Mobile AA(which I played very aggressively with to help the team). Even with having armor on my AA, using smoke(basically flares), and being engineer class I would still get my ass handed to me by TV missiles from 600 meters away. I even knew the missiles were coming, on some maps you just cant get out of the way fast enough and its just /over everytime.
Thank you man, appreciated.
This.
Sad you didn’t read the rest this competent person delivered to this post. I don’t want it to be like in BF3, not going to explain it all again, read the stuff if you’re interested.
grow a pair and learn to fly!
While I agree that attack choppers are a little on the weak side at times, they’re not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. Also, to be quite honest, they don’t really belong in Battlefield. IRL, they are support vehicles designed to take out tanks and other vehicles and while they certainly CAN attack and kill infantry, it’s not their primary purpose: Basically, you have this strange entity in the sky that’s worse at air combat than a jet, worse at ground combat than infantry+tanks but is so ridiculously mobile that you can’t allow it to roam free (like in BF3, where they were invincible if flown properly and the other team had bad jet pilots - a common thing).
Hell, an atack heli in BF4 is already significantly better protected than they are IRL because regular weapons don’t affect them, whereas any decent caliber gun can shoot through the real thing. Of course, the real thing doesn’t hang 20m above its target, which is another reason it doesn’t really belong. While I’m all for cool things (and attack helis are very cool), it’s just a nightmare to balance out. On one hand, vehicles should be useful and provide skilled users with a lot of kills, but on the other, the skill required for picking up 5 kills in a heli vs 5 kills as infantry or tank is extremely misaligned to the heli’s favor. Honestly, it’s infinitely easier to mount a coordinated effort against a tank because almost any random launcher works (Plus noobtubes and C4), whereas if you go anti-air, you’re dedicated to this and only this. If a heli pilot gets shot down by any non-lock-on weapon, it’s because he doesn’t pay attention to his surroundings or fly too low to the ground.
Basically, I don’t believe the attack heli even fits in BF, as the scout heli does anti-infantry better, jets do anti-air better and engineers + tanks do anti-ground better. Of course, DICE will never ever remove them, so expect it to fluctuate from UP to OP between patches and games.
I see why you are angry, and I really don’t want that to happen in BF4 again, I don’t want the second flare to come back (unless it’s also with that ridiculous timer).
I just want some actually minor tweaks, like removing the delay on the flares, which currently makes them useless against the biggest threat (antiair + stingers). I really do get it why it was frustrating for you guys on BF3. But this is a different story to be told, thats what I beg you to understand.
I gave up on the attack choppers after a lot of frustrating moments. In BF3 it was really fun. The little Birds are just superior. If you are playing with a friend whos repairing you and has an igla you can even kill the attack choppers. The Chinese attack chopper also maneuvers like crap. Wheres the logic here?
You understand that the maps are filled with armor in BF4.
You understand that most engineers will not spawn with anti air rockets when starting the game right? (Cause of said armor)
Its only after a heli is owning … and upon the next death, be4 the engineer spawns again, do they grab an anti air rocket.
An engineer has usually died once to grab the anti air rockets, while he is spawning in grabbing anti air, you have prolly killed 2-3 more guys!
So now you get 5 kills and 1 death per flight in the attack heli and thats not good enough?!
I disagree with everything except the flipping of the heli from a anti-air.