Ok so I’m a heavy lmg user and my historical expertise is in WW2. Ive tried researching WW1 before but never really got far always found myself confused about certain stuff, but anyways what where some hand held Lmgs in WW1? I always thought that they where fixed onto a bi or tri pod. Another thing is are Lmgs now back to being a part of the medic class? If so this kind of worries me with my play style. I like to spray a lot to keep heads down and provide suppressing fire. That being said I draw a lot of attention to myself and if I’m to be a medic as well that’s not good common sense wise.
The Vickers will probably be in the game And in the trailer there is a lmg not sure which one, it’s where you see the gas mask coming on.
[quote=“Gmkillers”]
The Vickers will probably be in the game And in the trailer there is a lmg not sure which one, it’s where you see the gas mask coming on. [/quote]
Its an American gun I forgot what it’s called
@Gmkillers said:
The Vickers will probably be in the game And in the trailer there is a lmg not sure which one, it’s where you see the gas mask coming on.
The MG you’re talking about is a Lewis gun with a drum mag on top.
[quote=“Frankenstein68”]> @Gmkillers said:
The Vickers will probably be in the game And in the trailer there is a lmg not sure which one, it’s where you see the gas mask coming on.
The MG you’re talking about is a Lewis gun with a drum mag on top. [/quote]
Thank you
Assault, Medic, Scout, Support
Assault, is the class with access to explosives, anti-tank mines and other weapons which will help them take down vehicles.
Medics, well duh.
Support acts similar to what players are used to at present. They have access to heavy machines guns to lay down suppressive fire.
Scouts provide intel, scoping enemies out with sniper rifles.
Vehicle dependent classes: Tanker and Pilot.
Engineer has been dropped.
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This is what I could find in various articles. Some noted Westie as the source others mentioned JackFrags etc. Each did have variations. Grain of salt at the end of the day.
Thanks to the YouTuber, C&Rsenal, he may have identified the machine gun being carried by the armored guy as the water-cooled MG-08/15 (hence why it’s said to be a battle pickup, since it’s a pretty massive and heavy gun), but with a carrying handle.
Apart from the Lewis there were a few other machine guns small enough to be classified as “light”. The Danish Madsen machine gun was used by several countries, the French had the Hotchkiss M1909 and the infamous Chauchat, the M1918 BAR is better-known for it’s WWII service but also saw action during the last few months of the First World War.
I have to wonder what (lighter) automatic rifles, such as the Fedorov Avtomat or Cei-Rigotti will be classified as. Machine gun or submachine gun? I’m thinking the former as it makes more sense. . .
LOL at people who think WWI is a good setting and then immediately want man portable LMGs when they were rare back then.
The average soldier used bolt action rifles in WW1. I don’t care what guns were invented during that period, most people had bolt action rifles.
Stop trying to pretend like there was massive variety when there wasn’t. Bunch of internet heros here.
Pretty much every army in WW1 eventually had portable LMGs, and some armies adopted them in large numbers (mainly the Germans and French, though the French LMG is more of an Automatic Rifle than a Light MG.)
Examples to look up:
-Lewis Gun (Commonwealth-used, sturdy and light; was extremely rare for first few years of war.)
-Chauchat (French / American used, fairly common but the .30-06 version was despised for reliability, plus it only had 20round mag. Introduced early in the war.)
-MG08/15 (German-used, fairly common during the last two years of the war, more like a REAL light machine gun with 100-round box, but also heavy and water-cooled.)
-Madsen (used by numerous countries, was rare but reliable. Looks like a Bren, has 30-round magazine. Introduced before the war.)
-MG15nA (German-used, rare, but air-cooled and with 100-round box. Introduced fairly early in war.)
-M1918 BAR (American-used, showed up for the last couple of months of the war, the famous Browning Automatic Rifle is not unlike the Chauchat in that it fires automatic from a 20-round magazine at a slow rate of fire.)
Lewis is definitely in the game and I think it nearly garaunteed we’ll see an MG08/15. The rest would be nice and there are plenty of other, lesser-used LMGs as well.
There is a difference between a gun existing in that time period and one that was actually used.
Watch this
@S1ngular1ty said:
There is a difference between a gun existing in that time period and one that was actually used.
Yeah, except DICE never really cared for historical accuracy. Even in Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam, their most “accurate” titles, they took liberties of using tech that wasn’t too common at the time in the name of fun and sometimes balance. Like the Type 5 (Japanese M1 Garand clone) in Battlefield 1942. It’s figured that some were used during the war, but it’d have been in a VERY limited number.
Battlefield has usually been a showcase of technology in usage, prototype stage, and even concept stage during the respective time periods the games take place. Look at Secret Weapons of WW2. DICE probably had a load of fun doing research for that expansion.
<— Verdun is that way, which I’m sure is still a great game, by all means. We at least have options. . .
[quote=“S1ngular1ty”]LOL at people who think WWI is a good setting and then immediately want man portable LMGs when they were rare back then.
The average soldier used bolt action rifles in WW1. I don’t care what guns were invented during that period, most people had bolt action rifles.
Stop trying to pretend like there was massive variety when there wasn’t. Bunch of internet heros here.[/quote]
Who’s being an Internet hero? It’s just a discussion no need to be a jerk just add input not trash talk kiddo.
The standard rifle for most everybody was a bolt action rifle. Sorry to ruin your dreams. WWI sucked.
The standard for most shooters isn’t being historically accurate. Sorry to ruin your dreams. Gaming doesn’t suck THAT much. . .
@ S1ngular1ty
Yeah I’m pretty sure the MG4 and UCaV are used in every modern firefight.
I have to imagine that part of dice selling the ww1 idea to EA involved a capitulation towards adding in guns that saw extremely limited service. I mean the first Thompson smg was built in 1917 (Thompson Persuader) and a shipment of them didn’t hit the battlefield until 2 weeks before armistice…point being I would not be surprised to see some practically unused automatics in the game
^ Dice said in the stream they will be using weapons from the war and “possibly” anything that was made but not used and prototypes.
There’s a post with a rough list of potentials. 5-6 smg’s, 8-12+ lmg’s, 6+ shotguns, tons of bolt actions, quite a few semi-autos (dmr’s) etc.
@MegaloDorian said:
The standard for most shooters isn’t being historically accurate. Sorry to ruin your dreams. Gaming doesn’t suck THAT much. . .
Honestly dont know why people reply to him
A good chunk of infantry gameplay shown in the trailer featured automatics (mostly MGs) and in the promotional artwork Mr. Cape Guy clearly has an SMG.
There is literally no reason to think that there wont be infantry held automatics, Im guessing at least 2 out of the 4 known classes will have them.
Its not true to WW1 no, but currently many of the GPMGs used in BF4 as “LMGs” are rarely manned by a single person, and there are a good amount of weapons that arent used on front line engagements (like a bow, for instance)