You really want EA to pay for an anti-cheat that hasn’t been implemented into any game since Battlefield Hardline in 2015?
I can understand asking for other solutions that seem to be actively used but the ALL CAPS raging about Punkbuster seems counterproductive.
I can absolutly be wrong when it come to that person ofc, but when we discussed befor I was not wrong, but I can atleast stand for beeing wrong sometimes if I am with this person! Can you admit you where wrong befor? I guess not!
That’s exactly what’s been going on for the past years, go on to the next BF and never look back. This new forum was created to erase the previous Battlelog forum full of customers addressing the cheating/hacking and nothing was being done about it.
I think like you do.
But go explain to that bunch of 14-18-year-old kids that they are the mass of players who purchase both origin Access and cheats at the same time,
Because in their heads it is automatic to associate cheating with being superior to others…
Another issue this lack of anti-cheat is causing is the insane amount of toxicity in the in-game chat and the number of false reports. I see it against top players who stream as well as others like myself. It’s gotten to the point that if you have any skill, it must be hacks. Just yesterday, I’m playing with my squad and I’ve got a nice pair of headphones and audio set to 3D headphones, so this guy is laying prone on the rock face on Fjell and doesn’t realize that if you move while prone, even rotate, you make noise. I hear him, so I jump over the rock face and let him have it. The entire rest of the game he kept accusing my platoon and me of using ESP and stated that I had been reported…
This is why reporting or even a vote kick isn’t full proof. Too many players that don’t know the ends and out of the game that jump to “it must be hacks” bc there is no system in place to prove otherwise. I’ve played BF since 2002 and have become a bit of a try hard with BFV. I study other “pro” players and have spent the past year honing my skill by playing every day to rise to a similar level of these other elite players. But hop in a server and go on a tear and next thing you know you are getting accused and reported for simply being good.
Sorry for the rant. It’s more of a personal issue that I take offense bc I see such accusations as an attack on my integrity as a person. But ppl actually logging false reports just angers me all the more.
People are spooked, that’s why you get unrealistic accusations.
Then the problem with chat is that eventually one gets triggered in using it too to vent some frustration, which wasn’t the intention at first. So it gets toxic.
As for the previous bf titles, bf3 was saved by rented servers. the publics from rental services were adminned a bit too which cleared out the obvious botters asap, and the clan servers provided an environment where you suddenly was better at the game, and kept growing. I recall from bf4 posts (which I skipped) there were many stability issues from crashing to not running at all, from bf1 I recall there were issues with planes (go figure) I skipped that too because of the setting.
I played bfv beta and got bored from it within the round, but bought it at the christmas sale, just to see if I could run 100 fps on my aging sandy cpu.
I’m heavily let down by the cheating problem in this game, but also have to say that I tracked several profiles to see them stand still at a certain date, and not getting active again. Or simply disappear. So something must have been done, or else these suspects would continue playing.
As for this forum, I took the time to read all the terms, which is a decent read, not to say long. And those are straight from EA.
I’m not gonna say how I perceived it at first, but I do recommend everybody to read it entirely.
There’s as of now 138 pages worth of people talking about this. How much more are you people going to beat this dead horse? How much more complaining will you people do before you realize that despite months and months of asking for DICE to fix this game, they’ve only made it worse through sheer incompetence. It’s time to hang it up people, the grave for this horse has been dug, time to pour the dirt over the grave, throw down your flowers, say some kind words for its passing, and MOVE ON. Clash Royale on my phone gives me more pleasure and fun than this game ever has.
I have a really good set of headphones, set to 3d headphones, and I still can’t hear things like that.
Do you have any tips on configuring my headset to hear stuff like this? I figure could be anywhere from in game, to the OS, to the specfic headphone software, but I’m lost. Any ideas?
As for you getting mad that people file false reports: A lot of people have said here, and it seems pretty valid, that with such little faith in the system that is so widely held, people jump to hackusations way too fast.
In a way, I have to ask…Why would the GOOD players still want to play a 1.5 year old game that is ridden with hacks, when much better experiences are out there? (that’s not an accusation, just a random thought)
I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.
That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.
Studio reference headphones along with an amp and Dolby Atmos. That’s all I use and can hear things just fine. I can hear movement fairly clear at about 15 to 20m out maybe more. The only issue I have is sound cutting when there are steps behind me in extremely random moments.
I think for alot of experienced fps players that are used to sounding so much in other games there spatial awarness(game sense) is near second nature. Picking up someone ruffling on the ground prone around a corner is fairly easy to spot compared to your casual every day guy just relaxing having fun. I can understand how people feel when i spot them and kill them like that. Its the nature of the beast. We all have started at that point and eventually got better (of course some going the wrong route by cheating)
To answer your last question I believe bf in general provides a unique experience as it practically the only game that gives you a shooting environment that you can control through your actions without a heavy amount of cheese. An example being (destroying buildings to clear objs or flanking freedom / alot more space to breath). I also believe the gunplay can be addictive as its on the arcade / casual side of things but still has a skill ceiling. No other game does this and has succeeded ( ground war cod doesn’t come close). The only game that scratched the itch would probably be WW3 but that game fell apart under its own management.
Wouldn’t it be easier for everyone if people who actually go through the trouble of going into spectator mode to record cheaters are given a space to post said videos and have a team sort through them and ban cheaters accordingly?
Wouldn’t that be much healthier for the game?
No one is going to bother recording someone who isn’t cheating or a good player and posting it claiming they are cheating, I think people aren’t stupid and even if they did that the rest of community would dismiss it. I mean hell it doesn’t even have to be a public thread, maybe just give the players a way to submit videos for review.
Well there’s the subreddit on reddit with all the videos but I’m sure no one from EA/DICE even bothers checking that.
Why are you so fixated on protecting cheaters and silencing the decent players who want to see a healthy change in the game?
I did a misstake like I said and I manned up to it, if you stop having something up your *** maybe you could understand that sometime
I still stand for what I have been saying befor, alot of ppl that comes here to say “Oh its so many cheaters” probally havent meet cheaters in-game, YES there is more obv cheaters and there are less obv, but then there is acually GOOD players that get cheat complained and reported everyday when they play, me and my friend get complains everyday when we play, yesterday someone got so mad and wished my family they got corona etc and just becuse we are good at the game we should not get to hear stuff like that but its atleast good we dont care what other ppl say on the internet about us or our families. But I belive you think thats fair if they think we are cheating?
Its the game with its issues… I have tried different setups and it’s the same situation you sometimes hear it and most of the time you don’t, once in a blue the sound fades away for a moment.
-Tanks are sneaking up on you like ninjas.
-Airplanes fly low like ninjas, I don’t even hear the screaming sound when airplanes take hard dives.
I can hear footsteps from a good distance, but you can’t pinpoint exactly the direction the enemy is coming from, by the time you know the enemy is on top of you.
DICE/EA don’t and will never understand how bad the situation is in Asian servers.
I understand that it’s very hard, if not impossible, for developers to catch those sneaky ones.
But, I mean, getting your head blown off by a shotgun from 100m away is a totally different matter.
In BFV, cheaters don’t even bother pretending to be normal since they know they won’t get caught.
Dear DICE/EA, if you’re actually trying to get rid of cheaters in your game, you should understand there’s no all-in-one software-wise solution to the problem.
Start off with having one of your employee spectate servers a few hours a day. After a month, I bet that 70% of the entire cheating problem will have been solved.
