[Megathread] BFV and Cheating Discussion

losthunter340 · April 7, 2020, 8:54am

Red_Label_Scotch:

losthunter340:

Red_Label_Scotch:

losthunter340:

UniQue1992:

The Cheaters are starting to invade EU servers.
It’s horrible lately and only gonna get worse, DICE ignores the cheaters because a player is a player for them (they need all the players they can use so they allow cheaters I guess).
And now they are shutting down more servers meaning more people will play on EU meaning more cheaters.

DICE FIX YOUR ANTI-CHEAT PLEASE.

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/baocaoduyu/overview

This guy has been cheating for weeks if not months.

This is what my point was around page 80+ somewhere, this dude arent cheating, if he where he would be a really bad one. I got better overall stats then him and I get called a cheater multiply times per day when me and my friends play… I even seen some of them complain that day here on the forums that they meeting cheaters, players need to start to understand whos acually cheating and whos not becuse so many goes on stats and some players just becuse they die fast from someone with probally better aim and reaction time then their self “THEY are cheating”.

Is there a cheat problem in BF? Yeah kinda, is it as big as some of you think? Nope not at all BUT Dice/EA should take more action to those who acually cheats but players giving them a hard job on that by reporting profiles etc that dosent cheat. The blame is not only on the devs, its on the playerbase aswell who pointing on everyone who are better then themselfs.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Asking for a forum. Yeah, all these guys are, "just good."
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I can absolutly be wrong when it come to that person ofc, but when we discussed befor I was not wrong, but I can atleast stand for beeing wrong sometimes if I am with this person! Can you admit you where wrong befor? I guess not!

When was I wrong in a discussion here? Please link to it and I will admit I was wrong.

I am not gonna go back tons of pages to link that, but hey, you cant be wrong I guess so probally you wherent right?
Guess everyone with better stats then yourself is cheating :3

kid_n4pper · April 7, 2020, 9:09am

this guy losthunter is more like a lost cause. even when presented with facts he’s spewing some other bull crap. I have no idea what he’s on about and I have no idea why he feels so superior to everyone else.

comes into the forum of a game that’s overflowing with cheaters and starts defending them. don’t waste your time with him.

StarscreamUK · April 7, 2020, 12:17pm

keep it civil and personal attacks on each other off the forum.

StarscreamUK · April 7, 2020, 12:50pm

are you blind, can you not see I just said to keep it civil and keep personal insults away and then you chose to totally disregard it. You have only yourself to blame.

TyroneLoyd_TV · April 7, 2020, 12:53pm

Very clear mids and highs. Alot less focus on lows. For most of the headsets I have used alot of gaming headphones weren’t as clear and had a somewhat muffled range. I dont know what you consider “good” headphones. I use akg 701s if I want to try hard sound. I have used Sennheiser HD 650’s which were just as good as my 701s if not better. My logitechs (I have 2) are junk and my hyperx’s are fairly muffled. My Artic 7’s too bassy and have a grainy noise to it that I dont enjoy. I use my hyper x because of a sponsorship but I can still make out positions just not as well as my reference setup.

I dont believe in 7.1 and 5.1 headsets.

Red_Label_Scotch · April 7, 2020, 1:31pm

losthunter340:

Red_Label_Scotch:

losthunter340:

Red_Label_Scotch:

losthunter340:

UniQue1992:

The Cheaters are starting to invade EU servers.
It’s horrible lately and only gonna get worse, DICE ignores the cheaters because a player is a player for them (they need all the players they can use so they allow cheaters I guess).
And now they are shutting down more servers meaning more people will play on EU meaning more cheaters.

DICE FIX YOUR ANTI-CHEAT PLEASE.

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/baocaoduyu/overview

This guy has been cheating for weeks if not months.

This is what my point was around page 80+ somewhere, this dude arent cheating, if he where he would be a really bad one. I got better overall stats then him and I get called a cheater multiply times per day when me and my friends play… I even seen some of them complain that day here on the forums that they meeting cheaters, players need to start to understand whos acually cheating and whos not becuse so many goes on stats and some players just becuse they die fast from someone with probally better aim and reaction time then their self “THEY are cheating”.

Is there a cheat problem in BF? Yeah kinda, is it as big as some of you think? Nope not at all BUT Dice/EA should take more action to those who acually cheats but players giving them a hard job on that by reporting profiles etc that dosent cheat. The blame is not only on the devs, its on the playerbase aswell who pointing on everyone who are better then themselfs.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Asking for a forum. Yeah, all these guys are, "just good."
image1283×285 14.4 KB

I can absolutly be wrong when it come to that person ofc, but when we discussed befor I was not wrong, but I can atleast stand for beeing wrong sometimes if I am with this person! Can you admit you where wrong befor? I guess not!

When was I wrong in a discussion here? Please link to it and I will admit I was wrong.

I am not gonna go back tons of pages to link that, but hey, you cant be wrong I guess so probally you wherent right?
Guess everyone with better stats then yourself is cheating :3

Wow, you really don’t get it. Back to block for ya.

TFBisquit · April 7, 2020, 7:22pm

I have to say that sometimes even stereo on 2.1 speakers let me hear enemies nearby. But it’s random. sometimes it’s pretty accurate, other times it’s all a big stampede from friendlies.

Red_Label_Scotch · April 7, 2020, 10:03pm

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

They need to make a hack that will let you unlock skins that are behind the paywall. That might get them interested in an anti-cheat.

SirBobdk · April 7, 2020, 10:25pm

Red_Label_Scotch:

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

They need to make a hack that will let you unlock skins that are behind the paywall. That might get them interested in an anti-cheat.

True, Rofl

V0MlT · April 8, 2020, 9:42am

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

Dead it might be, still catching cheaters though, a lot better than what we have now is it not.

Red_Label_Scotch:

Col_Little_J275:

Another issue this lack of anti-cheat is causing is the insane amount of toxicity in the in-game chat and the number of false reports. I see it against top players who stream as well as others like myself. It’s gotten to the point that if you have any skill, it must be hacks. Just yesterday, I’m playing with my squad and I’ve got a nice pair of headphones and audio set to 3D headphones, so this guy is laying prone on the rock face on Fjell and doesn’t realize that if you move while prone, even rotate, you make noise. I hear him, so I jump over the rock face and let him have it. The entire rest of the game he kept accusing my platoon and me of using ESP and stated that I had been reported…

This is why reporting or even a vote kick isn’t full proof. Too many players that don’t know the ends and out of the game that jump to “it must be hacks” bc there is no system in place to prove otherwise. I’ve played BF since 2002 and have become a bit of a try hard with BFV. I study other “pro” players and have spent the past year honing my skill by playing every day to rise to a similar level of these other elite players. But hop in a server and go on a tear and next thing you know you are getting accused and reported for simply being good.

Sorry for the rant. It’s more of a personal issue that I take offense bc I see such accusations as an attack on my integrity as a person. But ppl actually logging false reports just angers me all the more.

I have a really good set of headphones, set to 3d headphones, and I still can’t hear things like that.

Do you have any tips on configuring my headset to hear stuff like this? I figure could be anywhere from in game, to the OS, to the specfic headphone software, but I’m lost. Any ideas?

As for you getting mad that people file false reports: A lot of people have said here, and it seems pretty valid, that with such little faith in the system that is so widely held, people jump to hackusations way too fast.

In a way, I have to ask…Why would the GOOD players still want to play a 1.5 year old game that is ridden with hacks, when much better experiences are out there? (that’s not an accusation, just a random thought)

yes i do have a tip for that, get your hearing tested, im not taking the Pi**, had the same issue myself

with subtle sounds and blamed all manor of things, sound card, headphones, speakers, amplifier, sound settings ect ect.

so seriously get your hearing tested before you waste too much time on that one my friend

Col_Little_J275 · April 8, 2020, 1:54pm

I’m not going to advocate anyone run out and buy one, but I have a high-end sound card (an older Creative X-Fi Titanium HD) and it has always presented IN MY OPINION a noticeable improvement over onboard audio.

Magikf1ngers · April 8, 2020, 10:49pm

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

Dead it might be, still catching cheaters though, a lot better than what we have now is it not.

Yoda you sound like.

It might be better than what’s in place now, but the problem with aged software like that is that people have had a ton of time to work around it, crack it, etc.

Regardless, the sentiment is the same. Anti-Cheat. Now.

Bryjo3 · April 9, 2020, 3:10am

I tried to cave and buy it on PS4 but this joke of a game is still selling for 40 bucks on the PSStore. I am so done with dealing with cheaters on PC.

research-kitchen · April 9, 2020, 3:28am

This whole thread is just sad! The most popular thread is about cheating and it’s at 139 pages. Hope everyone has learned there lesson about believing anything EA says. I really doubt i’ll buy the next one and I have bought almost every bf game since 1942. #pathetic

Magikf1ngers · April 9, 2020, 8:02am

Red_Label_Scotch:

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

They need to make a hack that will let you unlock skins that are behind the paywall. That might get them interested in an anti-cheat.

olavafar · April 9, 2020, 8:02am

Red_Label_Scotch:

Magikf1ngers:

V0MlT:

Magikf1ngers:

TL;DR notice.

Today’s frustration is becoming the norm. Yet I still try because I paid for the game, and the few times I can get in one where the cheating is at a minimum, it’s still a blast to play. So the optimistic side of me keeps trying. However - unless and until this issue is fixed, I will not be buying another EA product - and this is from a 30 year customer of EA.

Well said and in the same boat as you, been an ea customer since very early in the history of video games
such as the road rash series, so yeh well done EA, you managed to screw up years and years worth of
customer loyalty.

PAY THE PUNK BUSTER PEOPLE TO SORT IT OUT FOR YOU???

I agree with the sentiment, but PB is dead. Has been for quite some time.

That being said - something has to be done. Period. I keep hoping that some attorney will get this going as a class action lawsuit or something. Technically - the cheating is against the EULA you agree to when you install the game, and by implication, every time you play the game. It shocks me that games publishers won’t enforce it that way.

They need to make a hack that will let you unlock skins that are behind the paywall. That might get them interested in an anti-cheat.

How do you know that a player with a certain skin actually payed for it?

LOLGotYerTags · April 22, 2020, 11:32pm

To be honest even if cheating is 100% eradicated, I still wouldn’t want crossplay enabled if I had a modern console and a game that had the option for it

You can only imagine how bad a game would be if a competitive pc player cross played with console users.

It would be a bloodbath.

I mean, if the games being cross played were games like RPG games, racing games like need for speed, or other games like co op games, it would fare better.

But in an FPS game, Naw..

TyroneLoyd_TV · April 22, 2020, 11:40pm

Mmm I wouldnt say bloodbath (cods aim assist for example is a bit overzelous) so it can curb some pc players but I dont believe it would work half as well on battlefields open maps.

Lancelot_du_Lac · April 23, 2020, 1:58am

I have yet to find an announcement from EA that BF6 will be available on PC. Plenty of talk about PS5 and Xbox X, but not one word about PC.

Most game sites assume it will be available on PC…

LOLGotYerTags · April 23, 2020, 2:49am

Slightly off topic here but I’ll respond to this..

PC is always going to be a viable platform, Both now and in years to come.

Plus most console hardware comes from the pc market, e.g there are hints that next gen will have ray tracing, Yet we’ve had this tech for a while in software form on 3DS MAX using vray materials and the vray render engine and more recently using Nvidia iray in other modelling software ( e.g blender and daz3d )

Now we have realtime raytracing in games using DXR ( DirectX Raytracing ) and of course DLSS which improves game performance while minimizing quality loss.

Add to that, I believe DICE is still partnered with Nvidia so I’m pretty sure the next bf game will expand on DXR and improve visuals more to make even more immersive game worlds.

Its only starting to get interesting and with the nvidia 30xx series and next gen around the corner, We’ll really start seeing a boost in fidelity across all platforms.