[Megathread] BFV and Cheating Discussion

The AC chief maybe takes his job as seriously as his studies?

https://twitter.com/Merson316/status/1206696095105114113

I am not quite sure if BFV functions same way as BF3 and BF4 namewise, but if you release a name (change your ingame name) some one else is free to use it, think this was implemented in 2008. Which is as I remember it through your origin account which is linked to the soldier on the specific platform - in this case pc. That would make it impossible to figure out who you are if you made that change. If youre dumb enough to cheat I guess youre also too dumb to change your name after getting caught. Besides most of the advanced cheatsites brag about having namespoof as HardWare ID spoofers too … go figure :expressionless: I DO know there are other means to catch a player who cheated in the past as Im admin myself with a pletora of tools at my disposal in bf3 and bf4 - which there isnt in BF5 … so basically you can’t figure out who is who unless youre connected through other communication platforms than BF5 or am I wrong ?

Nevermind, I have no reason to believe DICE/EA will change tactics and spend money on saving this game which at some point this long thread is an obvious proof to, no one from EA been here commenting on the misssing AC . If you Reddit where theres far more posibillities to post about cheaters
hence EA doesnt own Reddit you can see daily uploaded videos of players blatantly cheating AND getting their names shown to public.
So, - whats the real difference here ? EA has an idea of not posting - letting us post but they cant do any about we do it any other places ? why not just grab it by the throat and be honest ? No, we dont have AC - we just sacked the angry dwarf reading all the reports ? And start it up from scratch because as it is now, I doubt any one has confidence in EA/DICE …

The problem lies with EA/DICE, we all know this. Their mentality is to keep shelling out BF games and the consumer (the players) will keep purchasing them regardless of what lack luster anti-cheat they have installed. We’ve seen BF4 w/ PB, BF1 w/ FF and now BFV with…whatever it’s called…FF 2.0 which is laughable. The WORLD is laughing at EA/DICE for their anti-cheat system. Coders, hackers, software programmers can EASILY bypass EA/DICE anti-cheat and use it until the pigs fly. Why? With all the video evidence, forum threads, discussions, LIVE Q&A, EA/DICE remains “silent” on their anti-cheat. Come on DICE, be real, you can’t possibly voice during your Q&A in Nov 2018 that your “Top Secret” anti-cheat for BFV is working. We cant name and shame, we can’t post vids, we can ONLY submit a few sentences with “video” or “screenshots” of players through Official EA Help. And guess what, those SAME cheaters that have been reported over and over and over and over are STILL playing the game. DICE..YOU ARE LETTING THESE PPL RUIN YOUR REPUTATION!!! Yet when other players get falsely accused of cheating, oh, well, we gotta ban them then. No matter how much the players rant and rave over anti-cheat…IT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE how EA/DICE does business. If the shareholders are happy that $$$ keep’s coming in so EA/DICE can keep making BF games, then the head cooperate at EA are happy. Well, god forbid EA/DICE actually makes a anti-cheat that REALLY works to BAN legit cheaters. But wait, the money…what if the money stop coming in?? Oh, better not make that anti-cheat just yet EA/DICE. Don’t think about hardware or IP ban either noooope, just keep FF 2.0 alive in BFV, let the cheaters run rampid, ban a few here and there, let them make another account so you get more money AND on top of that, keep BFV on sale at low price so you’ll also get more money, especially Black Friday and Christmas…gotta get those 1st Quarter quota sales up for the new year!! See, its a WIN WIN for EA/DICE and 100% loss for the consumer. This type of business is REALLY REALLY dirty. Players think they are getting a good product but we’re not. Out of all the nerf, buff, patches, fixes, customizations, skins and all the shiny things…the anti-cheat is a disgrace to BFV. But I’m pretty sure big boy AAA Gaming Company are feeling really bad right now…naaaa, who am I kidding, they LOVE the community. The love to keep us angry, frustrated with the game, lack of trust and faith in this franchise and developers. See, you can only polish a ¯_(ツ)/¯ so much before there’s no more ¯_(ツ)/¯ left. DICE “may” have saved BFV from totally sinking, but, their anti-cheat is still a worldly joke. I value playing BF games, always have, still play BFV from time to time, however, the more cheaters I come across, the more I just want to self this game. In any case, it don’t matter, the second I bought BFV, I lost to them 100%, we have all lost to them 100%. No one can say that they are 100% satisfied w/ BFV…no one.

EA/DICE k/d ratio: 1,000,000+ / 0

Seems like EA/DICE just keeps using their own “cheats” to keep winning no matter the cost.

Yes but what said GDPR about personnal data:

  1. personal must give his consent for ea to store the data in order to provide the service.

  2. personal can ask ea to provide list of data they have

  3. personal can give revocation at any time.
    extract wikipedia :
    *A data controller may not refuse service to users who decline consent to processing that is not strictly necessary in order to use the service. (Article 7(4))
    *But if data is strictly necessary to provide the service than EA can refuse the service

4.EA has to provide on request the list of companies receiving the data collected by EA and why they are sent to other companies.

5.EA has the obligation to answer to official controller (if requested) and provide the complete flow of data.

6.a specific role must be identified at EA it’s called DPO (Data Protection officer), this guy is responsible to analysze all the personal data in use in the company and provide the flow and reason why data is stored.

  1. in case of data breach the regulatory services nees to be alerted within 72 hours

There are a lot of other topics.

But all of the abvove are mandatory and EA asked us to give our consent.
In my opinion the service EA provides contains:
-providing a game
-provideing an online platform
…
and it’s up to you to put in the service you provide something like : “ensuring the integrity of the game and ensuring customers received what they have paid for”

If you put it in the services description that everybody has to accept to play BFV. Then you are covered for using pseudo to fullfill the part of your service releted to cheating/hacking.

So I really don’t understand why EA had so much reluctance to fight hacking efficiently and to use all the tools and means they can use.
Behalve the fact that it cost money they don’t want to spend for some reason.

Why do we ask for names?
Because we see cheaters all day long and nothing done, we see guys we reported still active after months.
At least provide an anonymized list of cheters being banned with list and timestamp of reports and also timestamp of ban. Timestamp are not personnal info and an anonymized list if ok regarding regulations.

More info here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
I know it’s wikipedia, there can be errors but at least it gives a good overview with comprehensible words.

The complete law is here : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679

Strange I put my post yesterday and it shows only now?
Some kind of filtering/review?

I think so, it’s happened to me before too, I post something and it doesn’t show up until much later.

Hasn’t happened for a while.

Why doesn’t EA work with Microsoft to utilize and help improve “Trueplay” anti-cheat?

Seems to me that OS level anti-cheat has to be better than any third-party program.

Sure, it’s W10 only (for now) but Windows 7 is EoL in January anyway.

There are tons of things they CAN do. They just aren’t doing any of them, and they aren’t saying why. The just claim over and over again that they are doing SOMETHING, something magical they can’t say anything about. That, combined with the fact that players keep seeing cheaters playing online, with no indication that bans of cheaters are taking place, makes Dice’s claim that they are, in fact, doing “something” sound like a cheap lie.

They aren’t even responding to this thread that they made, I guess they only made this thread to stop people from making new anti-cheater threads (you know, since they banned any threads talking about the cheater issues for a very long time).

[Removed due to name and shame]

There are literally hackers in every single game. DICE has lost control.
Combined with the participation trophy TTK the game is now unplayable and unenjoyable.

@KapitainKavern @RRedux
Let’s not do the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

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Once a mod checks the queue we can read the post and approve the post, hence the post appearing all of a sudden.

We dont often get to check the queue so sometimes it can take a little while for us to spot that there are posts pending approval.

Next time your post gets hit, send a mod a private message or tag us in the thread to let us know and we’ll be able to get it back for you.

I think many people do not have an understanding of just how insanely good some people are at playing FPS-games. So when they run into that type of player and get crushed by him, perhaps multiple times in a round, since they are not aware just how fast some people can play the game, they 100% honestly believe they’ve run into a cheater.

Not saying cheating is not a problem, just that there ARE lots of incredibly good players out there.

i love cheaters cheerleaders

I’m pretty sure we are past that type of conversation now. The abundance of blantent cheaters snapping shamelessly are stealing the show currently.

Yeah, people are so use to blatant cheater totally wrecking the game that they aren’t complaining very often about those where there is still some doubt left

if a third party site came out with a program to display more stats that would help people to better make a better informed decision if someone was cheating would EA take action against them more than they would a cheat site.

It have already been proven and detailled that EA don’t care. Even blatant cheater, the like that force a whole server to leave, and get massive report, are still playing month later. They say they’re doing something about it, but they’re just plain liar (which shouldn’t really surprise anyone actually, it’s EA)

battlefieldtracker.com

Enter your player name into search and look under the recent games (game reports) you have played on BF5. This will give you a list of players and scores during each game you played on. Find the player you suspect after the game on the game score board (battlefield Tracker). If the player you thought had an outrageous score, click on the arrow on the far right of his name and you will see the head shots and details of the game for him. Usually I have seen hackers showing 150/3 after a game would have over 140 headshots. Their stats are a dead give away. Others, you need to tap on his name on the game list and look at his total stats and games he has played. Lately most of the dumb hacks have only played 3 hours of Battlefield 5 with 10.0 + k/d. You can check on these hacks week after week, and in a couple of months they are not listed anymore, I guess the ban hammer got him or they are using another account. :smiley: I have a couple of friends that have a laptop on with tracker while they play, so when someone looks suspicious they do a search while playing the game on their PC. So, if the players previous game stats are too good to be true, why spend your time on that server and get out. During the old Battlefield 4 days, they had one type of tracker that actually did a statistical analysis of every ones weapons used which would flag a player who’s stats were impossible to do. This would color coded on the degree of a potential hack. This tracker turned up more hacks, but I have not been able to find that tracker or if it exist any more. If anyone know about that one and it still exist, please let me know. When the new Xbox comes out in 2020, I’m done with gaming PC’s. PC gaming will be a relic of the dinosaur because of the cheat industry.