So hear me out. The Drilling is not included in any of this. Also note I am not a shotgun camper, I actually push.
Shotguns are a weapon class that have lengthy reloads and are only effective up to 8 meters(ish). Spread make it hard to measure. The Suomi kills with a ttk that is nearly identical, and is more forgiving. It is more effective at range as well. Medic also has infinite heals to help with cqc, support does not. Shotguns are rather underpowered as a result.
Select-Fire
Now I want to add a nifty little feature-changing the fire mode dumps your shells out the bottom of the gun, and you load slugs. This would obviously take a few seconds. Only one specialization would need adjusting, so the slug spec would become high velocity slugs, with a 350 m/s velocity(normal is 300).
Ammo
Ammo counts should remain the same, so the total ammo should be cut to 15,15(normal,slugs) from 30 shells, or 20,15 from 35 shells.
Reloads
Shells are loaded one at a time. So hitting the reload button when at 5 out of 7 shells should be able to stop us from adding more shells.
Remember, shotguns are and unforgiving weapon class that is currently cqc only, and has less range than a suomi wich is more forgiving, just as effective, has unlimited heals, and has longer range.
These changes would be more detrimental to the drilling, as it’s rifle round is superior to the slugs used by other guns. It works like a bolt action rifle, but can only have a 2x zoom applied.
So seriously, you want both to eat the cookie and keep it?
Why not have a select fire slug for the 2a to while you are at it, it is not fair that it only owns up to like 20-25 meters and in that range make all other smgs redundant. Or maybe a slect fire bolt action sniper with a 2a type smg attached to it to make sure both log range and short range?
The problem of shotguns is not their lack of ability to use both buckshots or slugs. Problem is their ¯_(ツ)_/¯ poor range and giving them both buckshots and slugs wont going to fix them.
So the suomi is better than the 2a. Also, shotguns are good to 5m, and kinda ok up to 9. 25 is not accurate either-a suomi can take someone at 50 meters with select fire(which increases accuracy by 20%). So other guns do get select fire bebefits, and no one complained when select fire changed the bar damage model. Go main shotgun on Hamada, no camping, and tell me how it went after an hour or two.
No one wants shotguns to be effective at anything else than close range
They are already insanely frustrating to deal with CQC, no one with half a brain wants to have to deal with them at distances too
Just as effective as a suomi, but for a shorter range. And no self heals. How is that balanced? Sure, they are one shot, but the same goes for the suomi with the netcode. It’l get its 4-5 shots off fast enough, and comes out of a sprint faster. Also, slugs have a slow velocity anyways. And you would have to unload and reload to switch fire modes. It increases accuracy, which other weapons can do with select fire(20% increase). I really do not see how this is a problem. As for being effective cqc, as long as it is within 7 meters, they work. But backup to 8, and you are fine.
No the suomi is not the same as a shotgun
If you want to play at mid range just equip the slugs and assume the fact you need to aim
You still one shot people in the upper body at close range
Have you seen the netcode?
Also, a shotgun with slugs is just a crummy jungle carbine with slow bullet velocity. Never gonna us the gun in that ohk range.
yeah like it matters on your 120 ms input lag 64 inch TV
If anything shotguns needs a nerf so that we can tone down weapons like the Suomi and 2A that have to be this crazy to be able to compete with them at close range
I feel like they are in a place where they need to be. I don’t see why we need to change them. And no a soumi will not kill as fast as a shotgun idk where you are pulling that from.
Not equal, but similar for all intents and purposes. Plus infinite heals and longer range. And they are OK, but not havong slugs and normal shells, two very situational things(pistol level velocities or lower), and no unlimited heals snd such.
My ping is usually 10. But please continue. As for the 2A-I would argue it is fine. Suomi can kill more stuff, and faster according to sym. And it is more accurate.
