You said that bad players can’t have good opinions, which just isn’t the case. If you were speaking about experience, then “new players” would have been more accurate.
In either case, 30+ hours is more than enough for a solid opinion.
Ha, guy ignored me so I can’t quote him (I believe) without it being approved by mods, so he’s free from my response for now.
Either way, I’ve played BF4 for over 600 hours - I believe my opinion is worth something. Not being better than someone at a video game doesn’t prove anything.
You don’t even need 30 hours to hold a good opinion. With more experience, you pick up on more and more nuances of the gameplay, that’s true. However, that doesn’t mean you can’t learn of those nuances from others.
At the end of the day, your arguments and rationale behind them are what matter. Experience can help in forming these arguments and rationale, but if you already have strong arguments… then it doesn’t matter.
The opinions of casual players matter too. You have to attract casual players to be successful. I’m a casual player, and so are my arguments weak? I sure wouldn’t say so.
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Now that I’ve destroyed your argument I have to ask, Why do you use BC2 as an example? I know that I complained about the balance of sniper refiles in BC2
Besides whining like a little kid because people can’t understand your less than perfect English Your mane argument seem to be more about the balance of camping vs run&gun(ie cod) And while I think we have moved too far towards run&gun. Camping will always lose because of that 1 sniper that never moves and only gets 1 kill
While I agree that the scope glint is op. I find that knowing a sniper is looking at me and being kill with 1 shot a lot more fun than not knowing that you missed me again
AGAIN you use BC2! but the TTK on all weapons (except SR) has DECREASED since BC2 (in complete defiance of your delusion)
I suggest that a better solution is to; 1) Increase the accuracy penalty for Run&Gun 2) Increase the bullet velocity 3) Reduce moment speed
It wont stop a noob from sprinting around a corner and spraying you with their SMG (using all 30 rounds when a pro only needs 2) But it will help a deployed LMG against a charging sniper
PS Non so se il vostro rotto inglese , ma c’è un sacco di ’ lamento ’ nel tuo post
Sniping in Battlefield 2 and 2142 was somehow a lot more difficult yet a lot more rewarding than in the modern Battlefield titles. But I cannot remember there ever being a big problem with them. Only a handful who took the time to practice actually played it. But they were lethal if you were not careful and they could protect flags very well.
I do not understand why the class has become less powerful in the newer Battlefields. Probably due to the infinite sprint and fast movement speeds and maps that are not designed with sniping in mind.
The scope glint probably put the nail in the coffin of sniper effectiveness. Easy to spot where they are and then taken out by tap firing a LMG or Assualt rifle. Spotting, is something every sniper has to do. It just is part of your role.
It will be interesting to see how sniping in Battlefield 1 will workout with this new Sweet spot system.
Wow.. The and vinegar on this thread is amazing. Scope glare, fog it really doesn’t matter… A proficient sniper can use all of this to his advantage. Flood Zone in Bf4 was a classic example. Probably one of the funnest and easiest maps to snipe in.
When a game deteriorates into a sniper battle, I leave. What snipers don’t realise is their enjoyment kills everyone else’s fun. They make the game boring.
Just to clarify, I think camper/sniper battles making FPS games boring.
Those who play aggressive Recon on the other hand, are just as exciting to fight as the run and gunners.
I’m just glad that BF1 has removed the x1000000 sniper scopes from the game.
@ slayer of pigs I don’t know how you keep saying people need to read your discussion better because it doesn’t make a lick of sense and you are the only person in it that makes no sense. There are snipers that are really good players and there are ones that are useless and by the sounds of what I think your argument might be, you sir are the latter. The same goes for all classes it’s just that recon class gets all the attention because they look stupid when there’s a firing squad of them on a hill ie. every match on goldmud.
The thing that makes me stupid I guess is that I would prefer that things are fixed right away and that EA doesn’t continue their useless customer service with this game, like for instance when I bought the steaming that is hardline, had it not work, and was sent to battlelog forums (by EA customer service) where I was ignored for months until I hated visceral and everything they stand for.
As long as this isn’t the case I know I’ll love the game when I buy it
I understood just one thing by reading the last opinions, people that like style cod (run and gun) hate snipers and say that sniper=camping ecc. and try to destroy completely this class tell it is useless. The sniper lover clearly dont wnat his weapon is so useless.
I think for make sure that everything goes well the weapons must be more close to the reality (i told more close not like at), so people stop running in the meadow avoiding bullets like matrix, and everybody with his gun can kill snipers how it happens in BC2, i rember i could kill sniper from far with my xm8.
another e thing that i noticed is: people come here just for insult other people or believe that they are more intelligent of other. REMEBER : SMALLER IS THE MIND AND MORE BIGGEST IS THE PRESUMPTION
The guy broke my balls first, so you should be going off on him, he’s the one that acted like a child. He paraded around saying my opinions don’t matter because my stats weren’t up to his standards, just because I said the fog in BF2 “sucked”. To the point where he edited his post out to try and prevent me from calling him out on it, and just continued with it anyway.
I was speaking completely on-topic and the guy came in the thread solely to stat-bash me and say my opinion is worthless. To this moment, nothing he said in here pertained to the topic at hand.
just some questions for u: do u like play a game where weapons killed with a full magazine?
Do you like the sniper glint with clouds rain and in the shadow?
Do you like a game where bullets fall down after 30 metres?
i hope my english dont make u angry my sir.
