The Battlefront Conundrum

Why are people so scared about that game affecting BF1? Has Battlefield ever been as casual as that game? NO. It’s a Star Wars game. They arn’t going to make a competitive game for such an audience. I thought this was a no brainer but people are continuing to cry about how BF1 is going to be tainted by Front. That’s ridiculous GTFO.

Disclaimer: Only played the battlefront beta btw.

I’ll have to wait for the live stream to be sure

Do I think BF1 will be exactly like SWBF (without the Star Wars flavor)?
No.
But I do think BF1 will borrow some elements from SWBF and BFHL to ensure that the game is fun to play for the mass market of gamers.

The only way I can see that happening, is if they make two different versions. A console version, and a PC version. Both patched separately, and both balanced separately.
Battlefront was built from the foundation up for the console and ported to the pc. Battlefield has always been a pc first game and ported to the console.

22 hours to left

now im scared … seriously

As long as there are no hero pick ups. It won’t be lie Battlefront.

People are stupid, there is no helping that. It’s like being worried that the next Grand Theft Auto is going to be like L.A. Noire just because they are both made by Rockstar. It’s silly. Or even thinking that BF1 will be like Mirror’s Edge just because DICE makes both of those games as well. I just don’t get it. They might add some kind of pick up system similar to hero pick ups, but more along the lines of the current Battle pickup system in Battlefield, but that’s probably about as far as they’re going to take it.

Even if they did port over the hero system it’ll be weaker than saying spawning a chopper on a controlled flag. I’d much rather have the old school pickups meaning your whole kit changed. The kit being specific to a predefined role. Anti-armor, anti-air etc.

Yeah - people seem to be forgetting that DICE execs stated they made Battlefront purposefully different from Battlefield because they didn’t want them to be the same game. They, essentially, were tired of people claiming they were trying to make a Star Wars skinned Battlefield.

They were not meant to be similar - and Battlefront was made to appeal to a larger audience (hence the T rating).

DICE also made Mirror’s Edge: Catalyst, so should we all be scared that Battlefield 1 is going to include martial arts and wall running?

No.

Just because DICE developed SWBF does not mean that every subsequent game they release is going to be like SWBF.

While this may be true it should be noted BF4 sold 12m units on consoles to 1.5m units on PC. This is coming from Vgchartz which isn’t 100% but pretty reliable nonetheless. Take of that what you will.

Well dude it’s a triple A game by EA. Every game especially major ones try to cater to the masses. Why do you think BF4 has so many noob gadgets?

This. :slight_smile:

for the record, I love that game…

it only lacked stuff to do on that big city…

Although I don’t think Battlefront will have anything to do with Battlefield1 your argument is invalid.
LAnoir and gtaV are published by Rockstar. LAnoir is developed by Team Bondi and GtaV by Rockstar North. Two independent studios.

Let us not forget what Electronic Arts aka EA stands for:

ABOUT ELECTRONIC ARTS
FOUNDED: 1982 OWNERSHIP: Public (Nasdaq: EA) GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS: Redwood City, California

BACKGROUND: Electronic Arts Inc. is a leading global interactive entertainment software company. EA delivers games, content and online services for Internet-connected consoles, personal computers, mobile phones and tablets.

WHAT WE DO: In fiscal year 2015, EA posted GAAP net revenue of $4.5 billion. Headquartered in Redwood City, California, EA is recognized for a portfolio of critically acclaimed, high-quality blockbuster brands such as The Sims™, Madden NFL, EA SPORTS™ FIFA, Battlefield™, Dragon Age™ and Plants vs. Zombies™.

WHAT WE DO: Make money!!!

And lets not forget the EA OWNS DICE.

That’s why I view EA as the patron saint of casual gamers in a sense.
EA has shown a commitment to releasing fun games that casual gamers like myself can enjoy.
To each, their own.

Does this meaning making the game easy to play, easy to complete, easy to win?

Let us say that all gamers are casual. You play the game till you don’t like it and get over it. Or in most cases you would have finished the game as it is made for casual, no-skill players. Easy to play, easy to complete, easy to win. What next, you buy the next fun game that is casual. In the end you will be buying a new game every year, or let me say every month as the games become easy to play, easy to complete, easy to win. Well done you are a good consumer. Buy, buy, buy.

I am not a good consumer. I do not buy the newest iPhone, I have been using my phone I got 3 years ago. I drive a second hand car I bought 5 years ago. I do not buy, buy, buy. I prefer to buy a game I can play for 5 years without having to spend more money on it. I am not a good cow that can be MILKED by the gaming industry.

lmao, you’re blowing this (as well as casual gamers) way out of proportion.

Battlefield is a casual game. There are kids that play it and enjoy it - it’s an arcade shooter that’s not hard to get the hang of. Now, in saying that - I’m a casual gamer through-and-through. My total time spent on video games during any given day is maybe 2-3 hours tops, unless a game literally JUST came out and I JUST bought it.

In saying THAT - I’ve been playing Battlefield 4 for the past 3 years, and to this day it’s still among the games I play the most, and out of the dozens upon dozens of games in my Xbox One library, Battlefield 4 is still one of the FEW that I have installed on my console.

Just because a game is easily accessable to a broad audience and isn’t that hard to grasp doesn’t mean that it’s lifespan is going to be short and that ALL casual gamers will just move on to another game when they’re done with it. I’ve had EVERYTHING unlocked in BF4 for a year now, and I still play the hell out of it. I literally played it this morning.

Sorry - but for the majority of people that can afford regularly gaming online, as well as next gen consoles and gaming PC’s, a monthly or bi-monthly $60 purchase for a game, as a casual gamer, isn’t that big of an expenditure. A video game is not a MAJOR purchase.

I don’t get at all how you can claim the video game industry is “milking” casual gamers of their money, unless 99% of casual gamers are poor or living in poverty, and the industry FORCES them to spend their money on video games. After all, a cow that’s being “milked” doesn’t WILLINGLY give it’s milk away, it’s forcefully taken by the farmer.

Bad analogy is bad.

Battlefield 4 is semi-casual, not everyone can fly a jet and helicopter effectively or shoot one down with a RPG. Battlefield 2 is not a casual game.

You would be a cruel farmer if you were not to milk your cows!

"In general, in every mammal (a cow is a mammal, as is a human or a deer or a whale) who is not milked by a human or by its offspring will dry up, which means she will stop producing milk as it is not needed anymore. The more milk which is being used, the more milk will be produced. The less used, the less produced.. naturally.

If you just quit milking the cow (or other animal), she may develop Mastitis in her udder, which is painful and can ruin her udder or even a quarter of it. Mastitis is the udder inflamed, and there is swelling, redness, tenderness and pain. There may be an infection, and can be all or part of it.

On a side note, there are some high end restraunts in the United States which are serving cheese made from human breast milk.. so I am guessing someone somewhere probably also makes ice cream from it as well. So I wonder sometimes if PETA will actually follow through on what they wish for. Are their members going to eat the Human milk ice cream?
Source(s):
Personal experience for 22 years as a farmer and veterinary technician "
Source : https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100713223153AAObdn8

Oh whats that, $60 is not a large expense, I guess that the weapon unlock pack is also probably not a large expense…

And any of that about milking the cow matters why?

I was using it as an example in response to you saying the video game industry is “milking” it’s consumers - which, when NOT talking about LITERALLY milking an animal, entails exploiting or defrauding someone for a small monetary gain over a period of time.

Sorry, but the video game industry isn’t exploiting people - they’re not forcing you to buy the content they put out. You can milk the cow out of necessity so it won’t stop producing milk, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re forcibly milking the cow and that it’s utter’s purpose is to feed it’s children (that subsequently don’t get bred because the cow was bred for milking, not breeding), the cow isn’t saying “Here’s my utter, you can have my milk if you want to”.

Lastly, Battlefield 4 isn’t “semi-casual” just because FEW of it’s vehicles take raw skill TO BE GOOD WITH. The vast majority of people who play the game are going to be infantry players, a part of the game which is VERY, VERY casual. Someone who has never played Battlefield in their life can hop in a tank with thermals equipped and DESTROY if they have more than two brain cells.

Aircraft are pretty much the ONLY thing featured in this franchise that require an increased amount of skill to be effective with.

And no, $60 isn’t a major purchase, and the “weapon unlock pack” isn’t a necessity to play the game - you don’t NEED to buy it in order to unlock said weapons. So if you buy it, the developer isn’t “milking” you for that money, you’re willfully spending money on their content yourself.

You were the one who took my analogy literally so I just pointed out how wrong you are.

Will you please look at what happened to the Call of Duty franchise.

Yes Battlefield 4 has become more casual than its predecessors.

If you have played Battlefield 2 you would know what the core of the Battlefield franchise is.

So what is the core of the Battlefield franchise?

Oh, so the 1.25 billion people who are living in absolute poverty, for them that $60 is not a lot? Do you realize that absolute poverty means that one earns less than $1.5 per day. For your sake I hope you learn to see the real value of things.